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Old 15-09-2010, 06:25 PM
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can i check with you guys? I have a degree from the UK and graduated with a second class lower. With that, I worked in the Stat Board for about 2 years with a starting of $2.7K and ending at $3.3K before I left for further studies.

Now graduated with a Masters, I am returning back to the Civil Service, EDB to be specific. I am offered a starting salary of $3.6k now and I am not sure if this is reasonable or not. It is relatively lower than I expected and it is just $300 more for the 2 years I spent attaining the Masters.

To what I understand, $3.6k is usually a fresh masters pay but I have job experience which was considered.

Can anyone tell me if this is reasonable or I should try asking for alittle more? Thanks!
If you wanna go for more, might as well ask for $36K and stupid tax-payers like us will be working harder to put rice in your bowl.

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In civil service and stat board, try to make sure you are always in the top quad. and have ranked highly in terms of potentiall growth. If the growth part is ranked low by your superior, you going to have a hard time in increasing your paycheck and promotion. But if you are high, it is rare but you do see double promotion for non scholars as well .
You sound like a greenhorn. If you were in private sector, whether you are in the top quadrant or not is not dependent on you. You can work your ass off, but the boss will still say you are a 'C' performer.

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Does anybody know how long it takes for officers to go through each MX level?
My understanding is that MX12 is usually 2 years, MX11 could be anything from 5 to 10 years and so on.
This is to understand how long commoners have to slog before reaching directorial positions
I don't know why you are even asking such questions.

For our pathetic brothers and sisters working in the private sectors, they can be slogging ALL their life and not see light at the end of the tunnel.

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I don't know why you are even asking such questions.

For our pathetic brothers and sisters working in the private sectors, they can be slogging ALL their life and not see light at the end of the tunnel.
So what do you do? Other than tossing your worthless opinions around here? This thread is a useful gauge for many of us on the internet, so stop clogging it up with your pompous and opinionated rants. You may think you're smart, but you aren't. Trust me.
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Hi,

can i check with you guys? I have a degree from the UK and graduated with a second class lower. With that, I worked in the Stat Board for about 2 years with a starting of $2.7K and ending at $3.3K before I left for further studies.

Now graduated with a Masters, I am returning back to the Civil Service, EDB to be specific. I am offered a starting salary of $3.6k now and I am not sure if this is reasonable or not. It is relatively lower than I expected and it is just $300 more for the 2 years I spent attaining the Masters.

To what I understand, $3.6k is usually a fresh masters pay but I have job experience which was considered.

Can anyone tell me if this is reasonable or I should try asking for alittle more? Thanks!

it sounds low but it is unlikely that EDB will move it up for you. It is all about bargaining power, which you have none. EDB is a generalist job, they can take anyone from the private sector to do the same thing that you are doing. Plus they have many returning scholars every year whom have higher priorities than you. with no leverage, I doubt you will have much of a choice.
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So what do you do? Other than tossing your worthless opinions around here? This thread is a useful gauge for many of us on the internet, so stop clogging it up with your pompous and opinionated rants. You may think you're smart, but you aren't. Trust me.
some people just get a kick by dissing other people online.
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You sound like a greenhorn. If you were in private sector, whether you are in the top quadrant or not is not dependent on you. You can work your ass off, but the boss will still say you are a 'C' performer.
that happens in the civil service as well.
just that a 'c' performer in civil service is a good performer, in case you don't know.
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that happens in the civil service as well.
just that a 'c' performer in civil service is a good performer, in case you don't know.

that mean
C = good performer
B = very good
A = outstanding??

C = got normally how many months of performance BONUS?
how about B & A grader?
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do ministries help pay for further education? what's the process like? prove yourself, be the top performer?

i just graduated and thinking of joining a ministry but it's prob. not the best decision since i don't have honors. but was just wondering if i join, then leave for masters and rejoin in future? will that work well? i know i'm not stuying masters just for better pay but if the ministry helps pay for further education, why not?
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do ministries help pay for further education? what's the process like? prove yourself, be the top performer?

i just graduated and thinking of joining a ministry but it's prob. not the best decision since i don't have honors. but was just wondering if i join, then leave for masters and rejoin in future? will that work well? i know i'm not stuying masters just for better pay but if the ministry helps pay for further education, why not?
If u dun have honours, dont bother joining public service. Public service do give out scholarships to staff (on a competitive basis- in other words, only those with good honours and with good performance are given) to pursue postgraduate qualifications pertinent to the organisation.
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