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All take bonus liao go MIA. Jitao no sound no picture.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

All take bonus liao go MIA. Jitao no sound no picture.

How much bonus?

E5 - Engineer 3000-5000
E6 - Senior Engineer 4500-6500
M1 - Assistant Team Lead 5500-7000
M2 - Team Lead / Assistant Manager 6500-8000
M3 - Manager 7000-9000
M4 - Senior Manager 9000-12000
VP 12000-16000
SVP 13500-

Originally Posted by Unregistered

E5 - Engineer 3000-5000
E6 - Senior Engineer 4500-6500
M1 - Assistant Team Lead 5500-7000
M2 - Team Lead / Assistant Manager 6500-8000
M3 - Manager 7000-9000
M4 - Senior Manager 9000-12000
VP 12000-16000
SVP 13500-

How come the pay overlap one?
So does it mean if I'm E6 now 6.5k then promoted to M1?
I'm 7k then cannot increase pay liao?

The pay scale abit disgusting

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How come the pay overlap one?
So does it mean if I'm E6 now 6.5k then promoted to M1?
I'm 7k then cannot increase pay liao?

The pay scale abit disgusting

pay scale overlap is very common leh. you from which world one

Originally Posted by Unregistered

E5 - Engineer 3000-5000
E6 - Senior Engineer 4500-6500
M1 - Assistant Team Lead 5500-7000
M2 - Team Lead / Assistant Manager 6500-8000
M3 - Manager 7000-9000
M4 - Senior Manager 9000-12000
VP 12000-16000
SVP 13500-

not accurate

E6 can be as low as 4k

Originally Posted by Unregistered

not accurate

E6 can be as low as 4k

Yep
I was offered E6 4k

Imagine my shock when a junior project engineer keep asking me how much pay etc.
Cause he want to push work to me.

I showed him my payslip. 4k
He kept quiet. Cause his pay is 4.2k lol

This kind of overlap is stupid.
Then the E5 everytime lunch keep complaining how he don't get promotion after 4 years bla bla bla.
I shut him down. You want to be promoted to E6 and take pay cut to 4k?

Also not sure the reasoning why have a large pay range.
A better scheme is to have smaller ranger and more grade.
So you feel like you made progression. Every few years "promoted" to a new salary grade.
Instead of work 20 years only promoted 2 times.

A better approach is to make the E5 range smaller. Mainly for fresh grad. So people who stayed 2 or 3 years get promoted to senior level E6. But really their grade is just the upper E5.

Then E6 range a bit bigger. So people who are senior and more experience get promoted to E7. But still in the senior engineer level... Not all roads lead to stupid management.

If good pay only go to non technical managers who just use their mouth to work..
You will wonder why would talented engineers.those Google level work for this **** ckmpany


So that explains why engineers don't feel value. Foever work on E5 and E6.
Then when they are promoted to M1 cause they reach the ceiling of rjr grade..

All take on the manager role and never touch technical anymore.
Then just spend years playing politics. Manage engineers with no engineering experience.

Is a joke.
It's like a manager go to construction site and instruct people to do this do that.
But they themselves never been in a construction site.

And the managers keep getting higher. Cause the higher management only see managers... Engineers are invisible slaves.

So people who want to get promoted also play this game. Quit technical. And pick up ******** skills.
So end up everyone just suck up.

And best kind is those super aras management intro people directly into manager position.
Just because they are from army or dsta or mindef

And you see they just do nothing.
Literally like nothing. Read newspaper brunch until 10 am chit chat kind.

It's really really a retirement village **** show.
Where only the engineers are slave working for no promotion.

And those managers say you are so lucky to still have your job

Thank god I quit this place.
Now I'm with NCS. Yes it's no better.

But my RO is hands on in the project.
Architect.
Not like in ST. All the "principal engineer, assistant" bla bla are just "I just manage, I don't know technical" people.

It's quite refreshing to see that technical people have a "senior" role here other than management.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

All take bonus liao go MIA. Jitao no sound no picture.

I'm surprised too...