Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment

Originally Posted by Unregistered

When is PIP given and how long do you have before you're fired?

I think you misunderstood.

When we say quiet quit, it doesn’t mean slacking off or no-showing for work to the point you get fired. It just means putting in minimum effort to get the job done, while collecting your monthly paycheck. You are giving up the promotion (cause you got plans to leave), not giving up your job LOL.

But generally; few locals will do it because they are worried about burning bridges and getting a bad reference to their future employer.

But it’s a given that most resignee will minimum effort la.

Likewise when we say “tang ping”, it doesn’t mean sit at home at don’t work LOL

It’s still continuing to go to work; but rejecting the nonsense culture established by our seniors to over-achieve, to compete, to engage in wayang, to backstab and engage in politics for promotion.

So we say no to 996, but doesn’t mean you don’t even show up for work - that one you really get fired man; don’t come blame us for giving wrong advice ah.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I think you misunderstood.

When we say quiet quit, it doesn’t mean slacking off or no-showing for work to the point you get fired. It just means putting in minimum effort to get the job done, while collecting your monthly paycheck. You are giving up the promotion (cause you got plans to leave), not giving up your job LOL.

But generally; few locals will do it because they are worried about burning bridges and getting a bad reference to their future employer.

But it’s a given that most resignee will minimum effort la.

very hard to quiet quit in big 4 because they expect you to OT everyday and work is never ending. People will notice you are slacking if you are doing your work slowly

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I think you misunderstood.

When we say quiet quit, it doesn’t mean slacking off or no-showing for work to the point you get fired. It just means putting in minimum effort to get the job done, while collecting your monthly paycheck. You are giving up the promotion (cause you got plans to leave), not giving up your job LOL.

But generally; few locals will do it because they are worried about burning bridges and getting a bad reference to their future employer.

But it’s a given that most resignee will minimum effort la.

My own experience has been that managers will threaten PIP even if you deliver work as long as you didn't put in 150% effort. E.g. didn't eat hours, didn't work full hours even though you're already on another engagement, client ask for discount, client complain why you all so many audit requests, too slow (how to not be slow with the current batch of juniors), why never work on the audit while on full day training, why you say the juniors slow we already got issues hiring people you as senior just need to compensate without incurring more budget, why you never OT during nonpeak, ask me to send them emails but complain their inbox is flooded, etc.

I'm just doing my 10 hours during this peak and nothing more. Whether I'm fast or slow I don't give a **** anymore. Not like our insurance covers mental health or specialist visits.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I think you misunderstood.

When we say quiet quit, it doesn’t mean slacking off or no-showing for work to the point you get fired. It just means putting in minimum effort to get the job done, while collecting your monthly paycheck. You are giving up the promotion (cause you got plans to leave), not giving up your job LOL.

But generally; few locals will do it because they are worried about burning bridges and getting a bad reference to their future employer.

But it’s a given that most resignee will minimum effort la.

pls stop watching so much #lazygirljob tiktoks. you do know that our "normal" amount of workload is a regular job's "insane" workload right? standard performance means OTing until 4am and going at 200% speed while eating at the desk, any amount of "minimum effort" means not meeting this regular performance standards and is enough to get you a PIP. that's how we got rid of a good amount of seniors in 2023 already.

it's not like HR jobs where doing your job normally still can pass. in audit if you don't OT confirm cannot meet the ridiculous standards and timelines one. jobs are intentionally understaffed for good margins and clients intentionally shorten timelines (partly to look good to higher ups, partly so that you're too busy to catch errors so audit fee can be cheaper so that finance team KPI looks good. some clients literally have bonuses based on number of audit adjustments.).

why do you think your seniors who OT like **** also still get rating of 3 instead of outstanding performance like they would've at a regular job? because that's literally the baseline expectations here lol

Originally Posted by Unregistered

pls stop watching so much #lazygirljob tiktoks. you do know that our "normal" amount of workload is a regular job's "insane" workload right? standard performance means OTing until 4am and going at 200% speed while eating at the desk, any amount of "minimum effort" means not meeting this regular performance standards and is enough to get you a PIP. that's how we got rid of a good amount of seniors in 2023 already.

it's not like HR jobs where doing your job normally still can pass. in audit if you don't OT confirm cannot meet the ridiculous standards and timelines one. jobs are intentionally understaffed for good margins and clients intentionally shorten timelines (partly to look good to higher ups, partly so that you're too busy to catch errors so audit fee can be cheaper so that finance team KPI looks good. some clients literally have bonuses based on number of audit adjustments.).

why do you think your seniors who OT like **** also still get rating of 3 instead of outstanding performance like they would've at a regular job? because that's literally the baseline expectations here lol

That guy said "our seniors", prob Oct batch newbie. Dunno anyone who refers to prev batches as seniors unless still associates

Originally Posted by Unregistered

pls stop watching so much #lazygirljob tiktoks. you do know that our "normal" amount of workload is a regular job's "insane" workload right? standard performance means OTing until 4am and going at 200% speed while eating at the desk, any amount of "minimum effort" means not meeting this regular performance standards and is enough to get you a PIP. that's how we got rid of a good amount of seniors in 2023 already.

it's not like HR jobs where doing your job normally still can pass. in audit if you don't OT confirm cannot meet the ridiculous standards and timelines one. jobs are intentionally understaffed for good margins and clients intentionally shorten timelines (partly to look good to higher ups, partly so that you're too busy to catch errors so audit fee can be cheaper so that finance team KPI looks good. some clients literally have bonuses based on number of audit adjustments.).

why do you think your seniors who OT like **** also still get rating of 3 instead of outstanding performance like they would've at a regular job? because that's literally the baseline expectations here lol

Suggest you watch LoeWhaley on .

Originally Posted by Unregistered

pls stop watching so much #lazygirljob tiktoks. you do know that our "normal" amount of workload is a regular job's "insane" workload right? standard performance means OTing until 4am and going at 200% speed while eating at the desk, any amount of "minimum effort" means not meeting this regular performance standards and is enough to get you a PIP. that's how we got rid of a good amount of seniors in 2023 already.

it's not like HR jobs where doing your job normally still can pass. in audit if you don't OT confirm cannot meet the ridiculous standards and timelines one. jobs are intentionally understaffed for good margins and clients intentionally shorten timelines (partly to look good to higher ups, partly so that you're too busy to catch errors so audit fee can be cheaper so that finance team KPI looks good. some clients literally have bonuses based on number of audit adjustments.).

why do you think your seniors who OT like **** also still get rating of 3 instead of outstanding performance like they would've at a regular job? because that's literally the baseline expectations here lol

really dog life or maybe worse than that. what is the point of living if you work like that? no wonder so many big 4 people behave like siaolang.

eat at desk? most people think you are siaolang if you do that in commercial .most people in commercial take 1 to 2 hours lunch break and maybe 15-20 mins toilet and tea break in the afternoon.

I realized that those who stay too long in big 4 are fake pretentious narcissists

some clients literally have bonuses based on number of audit adjustments--> wait until you kena those cb client who use cash basis instead of accrual basis and you can have like 40 AJEs or those lao auntie accounts clerk who don't even know why the numbers cannot tie.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That guy said "our seniors", prob Oct batch newbie. Dunno anyone who refers to prev batches as seniors unless still associates

Bruh, I think he meant a figurative reference. But what he said was true. Lol, here the work never seems to finish. U will be working for almost 90% of the year, or possibly close to a full year

Competency doesn’t really matter much here. As long as you are willing to OT, you're still average.

To get a higher rating, maybe you need to participate in their digital “innovation” program. With the same amount of time you spend overtime on those tasks, you can help out on those “useful” programs and be more visible.

I've seen some individuals outperform others in communication, leadership, etc., yet receive lower ratings. So everything is based on the partners' perception of your ability and may not reflect your actual ability.

Focus on developing yourself until you find a better exit bah.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hiring managers in commercial prefer those with commercial experience. Partners must be armchiong at the seniors. can tekan them but they can't quit lol

that's why there's a push towards hiring people with ulu hdb addresses and not private addresses... last time can do that with jhks now cannot anymore. these pl can tekan, won't quit when you tekan, will be grateful for scraps, will scold people who are not grateful for scraps. who say partners got no strategy for the future, can adapt so well to gov ep policy changes