Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You cannot change the mindset of the younger ones. Instead you oldies should be adapting to their mindset instead lol.

I am also an older millennial but i prefer the mindset of the younger ones.

Must thank Gen Z for flexible work culture, flexi work attire and refusal to do OT. I heard big 4 auditors had to wear long sleeve shirt and tie to office during mid 2000s and they had to OT until 3am in that attire lol

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am also an older millennial but i prefer the mindset of the younger ones.

Must thank Gen Z for flexible work culture, flexi work attire and refusal to do OT. I heard big 4 auditors had to wear long sleeve shirt and tie to office during mid 2000s and they had to OT until 3am in that attire lol

That’s the effort of the younger millennial, not Gen Z.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That’s the effort of the younger millennial, not Gen Z.

Noticed people use “Gen Z” very loosely whenever they just want to bash and complain about the younger ones.

In reality the true 零零后 is only 23 this year, most especially the guys haven’t even graduated or join the workforce yet.

As students without corporate experience their thoughts would be affected by what they read online. And you guys talking about OT to 10pm, who wants to join?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Noticed people use “Gen Z” very loosely whenever they just want to bash and complain about the younger ones.

In reality the true 零零后 is only 23 this year, most especially the guys haven’t even graduated or join the workforce yet.

As students without corporate experience their thoughts would be affected by what they read online. And you guys talking about OT to 10pm, who wants to join?

what 10pm? 2am la. anyway good, don't join audit. let this industry die off.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not really. I'm highlighting that a combination of working hard + smart got me to where I am. I'm very aware that I still have a long way to climb in the corporate ladder.

My gen (older Millennials) don't have FIRE fantasies, or illusions of striking it big with some YOLO all-in reddit wallstreetbet, or TikTok influences of "having it all" with lazy girl jobs.

My gen knows that we need good work ethics + technical skills to rise and make a name/reputation in our immediate industry.

But at the same time, we don't buy into the Boomer outdated notions of blind loyalty to 1 company, because no company will ever be loyal to you. We always keep a lookout for better options, and seize those opportunities.

I'm happy to provide a comfortable middle class life for my family and kid.

The problem with you Gen Z people, is that you don't know what you want. If your goals are condo & eventually landed, 1 or 2 cars, can send your kids overseas to Ivy, LSE eventually, then you need to work hard & be smart about it.

Problem is you want the lifestyle that social media sells you, but you refuse to work hard or smart to get there

okay then can you explain why ex-big 4 hiring managers themselves are saying they don't want to hire ex-auditors anymore

Originally Posted by Unregistered

tbf, working hard in audit is not the way. even my managers are finding it hard to get jobs outside of audit and the pay is not remotely good. pay barely increased over the last 20 years compared to housing prices while big 4 audit attractiveness just nosedived since pay and exit is not good. the "selling point" of audit is not there anymore.

Ya lor. Why put in the effort when the company consistently hinders your progress? Deloitte has just shifted the promotion, increments, and bonus timeline from the usual July cycle to September.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ya lor. Why put in the effort when the company consistently hinders your progress? Deloitte has just shifted the promotion, increments, and bonus timeline from the usual July cycle to September.

There are some gaps in your workpaper. Pls see me in office tmr

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ya lor. Why put in the effort when the company consistently hinders your progress? Deloitte has just shifted the promotion, increments, and bonus timeline from the usual July cycle to September.

how was the bonus this year? heard there's no increment

Originally Posted by Unregistered

okay then can you explain why ex-big 4 hiring managers themselves are saying they don't want to hire ex-auditors anymore

Not the OP but I'm not sure how this myth came about.

I'm in commercial and we do hire a lot of ex auditors. It's just that it doesn't confer any advantage because almost every other candidate is Big 4 background. It's a neutral factor but we don't purposely exclude either way. The interview vibes is more important.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not the OP but I'm not sure how this myth came about.

I'm in commercial and we do hire a lot of ex auditors. It's just that it doesn't confer any advantage because almost every other candidate is Big 4 background. It's a neutral factor but we don't purposely exclude either way. The interview vibes is more important.

Not sure about OP but I'm facing the same issues actually. My batchmates who jumped before/during covid had no issues getting FP&A roles but those of us who are trying to move after covid are facing issues. Feedback was always "Not looking for big 4 auditors". I'm wondering if I have to do 3 years of GL accounting first before getting jumping into FP&A but that's time I don't want to waste.