Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can u tell them to stop the bs. Some small cpa firms have partners with 30 to 40 yoe better than those b4 and mid tiers but they are not ato. These firms have better quality than ur b4 and mid tiers. If you are a regular seminar person its not difficult to see the current partners are full of bs.

Hows Integrative Business Solutions module?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can u tell them to stop the bs. Some small cpa firms have partners with 30 to 40 yoe better than those b4 and mid tiers but they are not ato. These firms have better quality than ur b4 and mid tiers. If you are a regular seminar person its not difficult to see the current partners are full of bs.

It's all about the process and branding. Technical skill is secondary. Due to the nature of audit. How good quality do you actually need in audit? Not talking about being the best neurosurgeon or what.

Tan Ah Seng PAC can have the most technically brilliant 40 YOE senior auditor god, but no big client will ever appoint them because:
1. No global brand name
2. Not enough manpower to do large scale audits especially for group companies
3. No systems and processes to handle large scale audits
4. No overseas network for cross border work

Lol the new generation young people all not joining big 4

End up people who do field work are in 30s

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It's all about the process and branding. Technical skill is secondary. Due to the nature of audit. How good quality do you actually need in audit? Not talking about being the best neurosurgeon or what.

Tan Ah Seng PAC can have the most technically brilliant 40 YOE senior auditor god, but no big client will ever appoint them because:
1. No global brand name
2. Not enough manpower to do large scale audits especially for group companies
3. No systems and processes to handle large scale audits
4. No overseas network for cross border work

This is very true so why are you hiring ugly ppl to your global network?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Lol the new generation young people all not joining big 4

End up people who do field work are in 30s

Strawberry generation.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Strawberry generation.

strawberry generation so what?

the young gen dun want to join audit industry, people in the 30s 40s 50s also cannot do anything

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It's all about the process and branding. Technical skill is secondary. Due to the nature of audit. How good quality do you actually need in audit? Not talking about being the best neurosurgeon or what.

Tan Ah Seng PAC can have the most technically brilliant 40 YOE senior auditor god, but no big client will ever appoint them because:
1. No global brand name
2. Not enough manpower to do large scale audits especially for group companies
3. No systems and processes to handle large scale audits
4. No overseas network for cross border work

The old auditors also from b4. They start up and hold other position elsewhere

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The old auditors also from b4. They start up and hold other position elsewhere

Its personal branding, not hiding behind the global branding. Which is more godlike.

The associates and seniors are talking among themselves, what's the point of vouching?

They say that what the audit partners and audit managers can do, they also can do it in terms of abilities.

Basically to say they are as smart as audit managers and audit partners, just that AM and AP were born earlier and joined big4 earlier only.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The associates and seniors are talking among themselves, what's the point of vouching?

They say that what the audit partners and audit managers can do, they also can do it in terms of abilities.

Basically to say they are as smart as audit managers and audit partners, just that AM and AP were born earlier and joined big4 earlier only.

My mentor once said, Wherever you go, it's always the same. Companies usually look at the number of years you've worked, so it doesn't necessarily mean that if you're more capable, they will promote you faster.

The Big 4 recognize your capability by promoting or progressing you on a yearly basis.So, if you are keen on having a head start in the Big 4, it's best to attend a university for 2 years. Don't bother with a 3-4 year university.