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Old 13-12-2023, 12:31 AM
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My manager works in ST for 20+ years, his salary is about 8.5K ( I saw his pay slip accidentally). He is happy with ST as he can come in at 10 AM and leave at 5 PM, spend 2 hrs for lunch, and 1 hr for tea break.
What is his grade?

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Old 13-12-2023, 01:18 PM
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What is his grade?
Manager is M2 i guess

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Old 13-12-2023, 09:53 PM
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Manager is M2 i guess
in ST , a real manager is minimum M3.
M2 is just inflated title, as ST is cheapo on the salary getting M2 to do M3 role

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Old 14-12-2023, 08:04 AM
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in ST , a real manager is minimum M3.
M2 is just inflated title, as ST is cheapo on the salary getting M2 to do M3 role
What is the corporate title like in ST? M1 -> M2 -> M3 -> AVP -> VP/head?
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Old 14-12-2023, 09:50 AM
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Hi all, Im new here. Offered E5 for 5k. Dipolma Cert with 8years working exp. Have a few questions and hope you all can advise..

1. Is there different between outsourcing and alternate sourcing? I was told my case is alternate sourcing.

2. I understood that my annual bonus will only be 1 month (for completion of contract), will I be getting any ST bonus apart from performance bonus which i would not get.

3. Is is possible for outsource staff to become perm? And what are the chances? Seem very unlikely since there are so many contract staff.

4. As i thought converting to perm staff is ideal. But after hear say hear say, some claimed that staying as contract better than becoming perm.. is it true and why?

I dun have a weak heart. So please feel free to give me your 100% opinions be it bias or not.

Thank you an much appreciated.
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Old 14-12-2023, 10:11 PM
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Hi all, Im new here. Offered E5 for 5k. Dipolma Cert with 8years working exp. Have a few questions and hope you all can advise..

1. Is there different between outsourcing and alternate sourcing? I was told my case is alternate sourcing.

2. I understood that my annual bonus will only be 1 month (for completion of contract), will I be getting any ST bonus apart from performance bonus which i would not get.

3. Is is possible for outsource staff to become perm? And what are the chances? Seem very unlikely since there are so many contract staff.

4. As i thought converting to perm staff is ideal. But after hear say hear say, some claimed that staying as contract better than becoming perm.. is it true and why?

I dun have a weak heart. So please feel free to give me your 100% opinions be it bias or not.

Thank you a much appreciated.
1. There’s a difference for employment type and the staff benefits differs greatly between each type.
2. I’m sure your contract wrote the max amount of bonus. I’m not sure how contented you will be hired as a E5 with 8 years experience as there are fresh grads who can’t do **** being paid at 4.8k and have people cleaning their ass for them.
3. It’s possible for conversion, but how many years are you willing to wait. My friend was promised a conversion as there was headcount. But VP say no and if your division head don’t what to fight for you. what can you expect?
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Old 15-12-2023, 01:39 PM
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1. There’s a difference for employment type and the staff benefits differs greatly between each type.
2. I’m sure your contract wrote the max amount of bonus. I’m not sure how contented you will be hired as a E5 with 8 years experience as there are fresh grads who can’t do **** being paid at 4.8k and have people cleaning their eass for them.
3. It’s possible for conversion, but how many years are you willing to wait. My friend was promised a conversion as there was headcount. But VP say no and if your division head don’t what to fight for you. what can you expect?
Perm is better, better bonus and benefits. For instance perm staff bonuses average 2months and above. There still many other benefits. For contract you are second citizen. Once contract end if no project you will get kick worse scenario. Perm you are sort of safe iron bowl
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Old 18-12-2023, 04:39 PM
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Perm is better, better bonus and benefits. For instance perm staff bonuses average 2months and above. There still many other benefits. For contract you are second citizen. Once contract end if no project you will get kick worse scenario. Perm you are sort of safe iron bowl
Sorry lo.
My division used to have alot of outsource. The manager refused to convert to perm to control the profit... Its their kpi.

Then when the previous batch of perm quit... The current outsource converted to perm. Guess what? They also quit... Nobody want the iron rice bowl. Lol


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Old 18-12-2023, 04:41 PM
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My boss keep hiring people who can’t work, yet he keep making me do their work then he tell my team in a hush hush manner say I want to leave in April 2024 after bonus. Toxic or Is he concerned that he lose me
Your boss don't care about you la.
You are replaceable.
Your boss is replaceable.
Your boss boss is replaceable.
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Old 18-12-2023, 06:44 PM
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This year there might be an adjustment, hold out for it. Though outsource and contract staffs will not get it.
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