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Old 17-08-2022, 08:22 AM
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Which dumbass HR came up with the pay grace salary range?

To the point that E5 can earn more than E6?
Then the E5 should be promoted la.

Such a stupid salary scheme.
No choice. Everyone know this company reputation is bad. If you give E5 starting salary 3.5-4K 99% all reject rather go work MNC which offer same range and better career prospects.

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Old 17-08-2022, 12:45 PM
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No choice. Everyone know this company reputation is bad. If you give E5 starting salary 3.5-4K 99% all reject rather go work MNC which offer same range and better career prospects.
Yes, you increase E5 salary. But you need to adjust E6 salary also and all existing ranks above what...

Why so stupid one? This company dunno how to do market salary adjustment ah?
To prevent people from leaving to get the same salary that you are already willing to pay.

How dumb sia.

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Old 17-08-2022, 12:58 PM
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Yes, you increase E5 salary. But you need to adjust E6 salary also and all existing ranks above what...

Why so stupid one? This company dunno how to do market salary adjustment ah?
To prevent people from leaving to get the same salary that you are already willing to pay.

How dumb sia.
They know those work above 3 year won't resign because their skills set cannot transfer to outside world

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Old 17-08-2022, 02:49 PM
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got rly so jialat ah? your engineers dont need any technical test eg. leetcode or take home assessment?
Lets see.
We have a system architect M3 that have 15 years of doing tender.
But have no real software project under his belt. No software technical skills.
Can't do proof of concept. Can't develop demo. Can't even interview and access whether a software developer is good or bad...

We have one M2 who is basically doing the job for this M3. But mostly PowerPoint.
Demo is PowerPoint. Some diagram of schedule. Again no software code.
Don't even know how to open netbeans or visual studio.

We have two M1 who is basically just meeting with customer to gather requirements.
Come back they ask their secretary E5 to type out. So basically it's they call meeting meet customer Monday.
Come back Tuesday to Friday is hold internal meeting with their engineer and dictate and discuss..
The E5 just type what they say. .. Then vet or approve the document and comment this and that...

That's it

Then we have one outsource E6 who is so fed up with all the useless people that he just take his time to do slowly cause everyone. Including the boss know he is the only one developing.

Then we have 3 E5 including myself... Who just learning. And helping out.
Fixing minor bugs. Reading and trying to understanding old code... Not much help...

I also don't see a future here.
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Old 17-08-2022, 02:57 PM
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They know those work above 3 year won't resign because their skills set cannot transfer to outside world
Yet alot of projects can't move until they hire an outsource staff to do the work...

Alot of dead weight in this company
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Old 17-08-2022, 06:50 PM
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Yes, you increase E5 salary. But you need to adjust E6 salary also and all existing ranks above what...

Why so stupid one? This company dunno how to do market salary adjustment ah?
To prevent people from leaving to get the same salary that you are already willing to pay.

How dumb sia.
Ya lor, gov sector have salary revision but here still dun have
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Old 17-08-2022, 10:36 PM
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Ya lor, gov sector have salary revision but here still dun have
even if have salary revision, they only revise the starting salary for fresh grad, and almost non-existence salary revision for those E6 and above, and that's why we often heard fresh grad getting more salary than those experience E6 or M1 with 5 or more year of experience with ST....
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Old 17-08-2022, 10:45 PM
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even if have salary revision, they only revise the starting salary for fresh grad, and almost non-existence salary revision for those E6 and above, and that's why we often heard fresh grad getting more salary than those experience E6 or M1 with 5 or more year of experience with ST....
Revise is only fresh grad and senior management la.
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Old 18-08-2022, 09:49 AM
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even if have salary revision, they only revise the starting salary for fresh grad, and almost non-existence salary revision for those E6 and above, and that's why we often heard fresh grad getting more salary than those experience E6 or M1 with 5 or more year of experience with ST....
Yes. When I was ST, they gathered everyone to announce the new salary package which is literally the same pay with nicer looking basic salary. When asked if the adjustment is also applicable to existing engineers the big boss came and gave us a dressing down instead.


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Yet alot of projects can't move until they hire an outsource staff to do the work...

Alot of dead weight in this company
And the outsourced staff get no benefits like perm staff.
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