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Old 06-11-2013, 08:08 PM
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Hi all,

I will be having a second and final interview with a director from a ministry tomorrow. Is it safe to say that I have more or less secured the job since it is already the final one. Thanks
Actually it depends, some ministries might have already selected you; and for you to meet the director is for formality sake. Like my ministry, the first round was done by the AD himself and the final one is by the director. But at that time, we have already decided who we want and the second session is just a chit chat /informal one.

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Old 06-11-2013, 11:13 PM
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Sorry, i have a noob question. All these salary figures posted in all the threads, are they before cpf contribution or take home pay?

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Old 06-11-2013, 11:20 PM
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Sorry, i have a noob question. All these salary figures posted in all the threads, are they before cpf contribution or take home pay?
They are gross salary, meaning include employee cpf. Take home pay must deduct off cpf contribution. But the figures don't include employer's cpf contributions

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Old 07-11-2013, 01:41 AM
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Can anyone here advise if my progress considered ok or below avg?
Female, 2nd upper hons in arts n social science

Joined Oct 2005 mx13 $2.6k
Sep 2006 mx12 $2.8k B grade PB on avg 2-2.5 months
2007 mx12 $3k B grade
2008 mx12 $3.3k B grade
2009 mx12 $3.8k B grade
2010 mx11 $4.3 resigned to join stat board

Jul 2010 stat board pay cut to $4k (cause took on mx12 job for better work life)
Jul 2011 promoted $4.5k B grade PB 2.6 mths
2012 $4.8k A grade PB 3.5 months
2013 $5.8k
am surprised that SB offer better work life over CS. The sense I got from comments in this forum is that CS instructs SB execute. Anyway, your basic pay progress really fast. Congrats!
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:32 AM
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am surprised that SB offer better work life over CS. The sense I got from comments in this forum is that CS instructs SB execute. Anyway, your basic pay progress really fast. Congrats!
It depends on which SB vs ministry. Where I was at mx11 as a mgr, work not distributed n headcount not actively replaced, so was working 14hr days n my baby was very young then. So I chose to downgrade to mx12 equivalent post in SB. The first yr was honeymoon. But after that still back to the same...cause promoted again to mgr. But at the very least the SB I m in prides itself for work life balance, so during peak project time I work like dog, but once off peak I knock off abt 7pm latest wo bringing home any work. The only thing is I'm working with an AD who's very dumb and selfish, so when it comes to ranking, I've to fight for my own rights and get bigger bosses to help give fair assessment. Thankfully I work for several different bosses on projects. My own dir knows his AD not performing but still keep him for political reasons. Anyway the dir also not liked by anyone else in snr mgt. So I think I should transfer dept at a good time.
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It depends on which SB vs ministry. Where I was at mx11 as a mgr, work not distributed n headcount not actively replaced, so was working 14hr days n my baby was very young then. So I chose to downgrade to mx12 equivalent post in SB. The first yr was honeymoon. But after that still back to the same...cause promoted again to mgr. But at the very least the SB I m in prides itself for work life balance, so during peak project time I work like dog, but once off peak I knock off abt 7pm latest wo bringing home any work. The only thing is I'm working with an AD who's very dumb and selfish, so when it comes to ranking, I've to fight for my own rights and get bigger bosses to help give fair assessment. Thankfully I work for several different bosses on projects. My own dir knows his AD not performing but still keep him for political reasons. Anyway the dir also not liked by anyone else in snr mgt. So I think I should transfer dept at a good time.
That is the wisest move. No matter how good you are, if your bosses does not have the charisma, it will be hard for him/her to fight for your promotion. Learnt that the hard way.
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It depends on which SB vs ministry. Where I was at mx11 as a mgr, work not distributed n headcount not actively replaced, so was working 14hr days n my baby was very young then. So I chose to downgrade to mx12 equivalent post in SB. The first yr was honeymoon. But after that still back to the same...cause promoted again to mgr. But at the very least the SB I m in prides itself for work life balance, so during peak project time I work like dog, but once off peak I knock off abt 7pm latest wo bringing home any work. The only thing is I'm working with an AD who's very dumb and selfish, so when it comes to ranking, I've to fight for my own rights and get bigger bosses to help give fair assessment. Thankfully I work for several different bosses on projects. My own dir knows his AD not performing but still keep him for political reasons. Anyway the dir also not liked by anyone else in snr mgt. So I think I should transfer dept at a good time.
dun act poor thing leh

u got 'B' and 'A' grade during ur time in the SB

still kpkb
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It depends on which SB vs ministry. Where I was at mx11 as a mgr, work not distributed n headcount not actively replaced, so was working 14hr days n my baby was very young then. So I chose to downgrade to mx12 equivalent post in SB. The first yr was honeymoon. But after that still back to the same...cause promoted again to mgr. But at the very least the SB I m in prides itself for work life balance, so during peak project time I work like dog, but once off peak I knock off abt 7pm latest wo bringing home any work. The only thing is I'm working with an AD who's very dumb and selfish, so when it comes to ranking, I've to fight for my own rights and get bigger bosses to help give fair assessment. Thankfully I work for several different bosses on projects. My own dir knows his AD not performing but still keep him for political reasons. Anyway the dir also not liked by anyone else in snr mgt. So I think I should transfer dept at a good time.
i am also in a similar situation as you.. need to fight for myself.... may i know are you dealing with projects or IT-related work? Your working hours came as a surprise as CS/SB has often been touted as a place with work-life balance.
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i am also in a similar situation as you.. need to fight for myself.... may i know are you dealing with projects or IT-related work? Your working hours came as a surprise as CS/SB has often been touted as a place with work-life balance.
When I was in ministry,I was handling a mix of IT n other proj. But not IT trained,so am very slow at picking up. Daytime meetings, nighttime update website n answer customer queries. Cause service std must be kept but most of my day is outside, bo pian. Only 3 headcount in the unit,but 2 vacancies! Took 9 mths to fill just one of them.

Got fed up n I did a total switch in job nature n joined SB. Now I do more paper writing, event mgt, n just accept whatever arrows come from whichever direction. Fight for ourselves is very tiring (yes yes I m kpkb, I know) and no guarantee will win cause once mgt change, anything can happen. Eg last yr A, this yr I m prepared to be C already.
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Hi! I'm deciding between two offers:

Background: 4.5 years exp in private. Local uni (pass with merit). Female. Current salary 4k per month. Accountant trained.

1. Government (Stat board) - Internal audit role
They offered 4.4k with downgrade from assistant manager to principal executive due to lack of audit exp.
Have their own grading bands instead of the MX scheme. They use E5 for principal executive and M1 for assistant manager.

2. Private (REIT) - Accounting role
Offered 4.6k. High chance of OT.

Bonus potential for both is similar. Which one should I take?
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