Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Own self no balls to stand up for yourself and say no mai kpkb ur juniors bully u. They dare to say no to u, why u don’t dare to say no to ur boss?

not OP but weaponised incompetence is a thing. even if manager is on your side, client cannot accept delay since there's fines and deadlines, while resourcing won't agree to give you replacement. i faced this issue before in an engagement where it's just me and an associate, and even if you put the associate onto a PIP immediately you'll still need 1.5 months before you can get a replacement. if this is an industry where the deadlines didn't have monetary fines it wouldn't be such an issue.

i also don't think it's just about standing up to senior. this associate just outright played phone non stop during working hours because they don't like audit at all but want a big 4 job because parents said must work in big 4.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

what are you doing now? all the accounting and fp&a interviews i've been to says they can't offer higher salary or will need tons of overtime

I am now doing sth related to ERP/ process improvement. Our advantage is big 4 background (which is very common) finding some role that needs accounting but more towards business side will be better in terms of hours and pay. but job stability not as good as finance roles. Depends on what you are more comfortable with

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You mean young gen are sociopaths who have no guilt about making others do their work for them by lying flat.

Sometimes I don't know if they're sociopaths or just plain stupid, because I had an associate that took forever to vouch and when done, often missed the entire point of the workpaper. Like for cutoff testing, he would put N/A in the date. After showing him step by step how to do it by doing 1 sample as an example and asking him to vouch the date again, he would just put Sighted to invoice # dated #/#/# instead of following the format in the first sample we did together.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am now doing sth related to ERP/ process improvement. Our advantage is big 4 background (which is very common) finding some role that needs accounting but more towards business side will be better in terms of hours and pay. but job stability not as good as finance roles. Depends on what you are more comfortable with

how did you break in from audit? i've spoken to in-house recruiters about SAP/ERP consulting before but always get rejected because I don't have relevant IT experience.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sometimes I don't know if they're sociopaths or just plain stupid, because I had an associate that took forever to vouch and when done, often missed the entire point of the workpaper. Like for cutoff testing, he would put N/A in the date. After showing him step by step how to do it by doing 1 sample as an example and asking him to vouch the date again, he would just put Sighted to invoice # dated #/#/# instead of following the format in the first sample we did together.

Why must die die follow ur format? What’s wrong with his way which I don’t see anything wrong, alr listed out the invoice no. and date which you can assess the cutoff correct or not liao wat. No wonder always say audit no time to finish, nitpick on these small fish bones of course cannot finish la!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sometimes I don't know if they're sociopaths or just plain stupid, because I had an associate that took forever to vouch and when done, often missed the entire point of the workpaper. Like for cutoff testing, he would put N/A in the date. After showing him step by step how to do it by doing 1 sample as an example and asking him to vouch the date again, he would just put Sighted to invoice # dated #/#/# instead of following the format in the first sample we did together.

People have different levels of competence, so you have adapt to their working styles. You can't expect your juniors to work at your pace or have your level of competency. This is common nowadays. You might not receive the same support you gave your seniors when you were an associate. You'll either need to handle more workload than your previous seniors did, or consider finding a new job where your team mates share similar goals.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Why must die die follow ur format? What’s wrong with his way which I don’t see anything wrong, alr listed out the invoice no. and date which you can assess the cutoff correct or not liao wat. No wonder always say audit no time to finish, nitpick on these small fish bones of course cannot finish la!

You cant be serious... Cutoff is see DO not invoice... Are you OP's associate LOL

Orange is offering 4k for fresh grads in tax and assurance. But no bonus for the first year(but actually they also don’t pay bonus when they only offer 3.6k right?)
Any news about the other three?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Orange is offering 4k for fresh grads in tax and assurance. But no bonus for the first year(but actually they also don’t pay bonus when they only offer 3.6k right?)
Any news about the other three?

Pls provide source.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Orange is offering 4k for fresh grads in tax and assurance. But no bonus for the first year(but actually they also don’t pay bonus when they only offer 3.6k right?)
Any news about the other three?

Last time is $3.6k for a1, they increased again ?