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Old 13-11-2013, 09:34 PM
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But I'm intendin to jump to a higher position... Givin myself a promotion... Despite the ministry not able to... Hopefully, SB ain't that stringent...

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many thanks for the replies and insights! the current civil svc im in does send me for overseas trip etc...just that, i felt i cud perform beta elsewhere and scale up the ladder faster...with less restriction of all the pre-conceived conditions unnecessarily set by my current department.

in short, would you recommend me to stay til my promotion which is projected to b in 2015? and meanwhile pursue a master?
My suggestion to you would be to keep an open lookout for higher posts in other agencies. If you are able to get a higher position and higher grade, why not? Else it will be better to stay till you're promoted.

Bear in mind that having a Masters makes not much of a difference, except that your CEP maybe higher. Also, please graduate with your Masters first before applying if you wish for the agencies to acknowledge your academic credentials.

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My suggestion to you would be to keep an open lookout for higher posts in other agencies. If you are able to get a higher position and higher grade, why not? Else it will be better to stay till you're promoted.

Bear in mind that having a Masters makes not much of a difference, except that your CEP maybe higher. Also, please graduate with your Masters first before applying if you wish for the agencies to acknowledge your academic credentials.
Thanks! Will bear that in mind..

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since i do not have honours, mayb it is better for me not to stay on in civil svc...prolly, i should go pte? but i realised that pte might provide a higher mthly gross, however their annual pay package will definitely lose out to public...they dun provide tt much of bonus as compared to min/stats board...

prolly stats board is the next place to go?
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If money is what you're after, you're clearly in the wrong sector. Even if you don't make it to DD, collecting $11k as an AD (mx10) by retirement isn't too bad if you're investment savvy.

Sometimes I thankful that I'm in a stat board/ministry where promotions to AD level are pretty standard. A teacher who've slogged away for years and decades will always be stuck at 7+k simply because he/she wasn't promoted to SH or HOD.
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If money is what you're after, you're clearly in the wrong sector. Even if you don't make it to DD, collecting $11k as an AD (mx10) by retirement isn't too bad if you're investment savvy.

Sometimes I thankful that I'm in a stat board/ministry where promotions to AD level are pretty standard. A teacher who've slogged away for years and decades will always be stuck at 7+k simply because he/she wasn't promoted to SH or HOD.
Actually, I'm quite comfy with the amt I'm earnin... And am ok with havin 10k and over by retirement. I would say my current HOD made me real tired... Not providing me the recognition and being so unconditionally bias. But I reckon favouritism happens every where... But I hope I can compete on fair grd in the first place...

Thanks so much for the advice... It definitely clears those cloud on my head...
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If money is what you're after, you're clearly in the wrong sector. Even if you don't make it to DD, collecting $11k as an AD (mx10) by retirement isn't too bad if you're investment savvy.

Sometimes I thankful that I'm in a stat board/ministry where promotions to AD level are pretty standard. A teacher who've slogged away for years and decades will always be stuck at 7+k simply because he/she wasn't promoted to SH or HOD.
I thought ADs are mostly in MX 11?
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Actually, I'm quite comfy with the amt I'm earnin... And am ok with havin 10k and over by retirement. I would say my current HOD made me real tired... Not providing me the recognition and being so unconditionally bias. But I reckon favouritism happens every where... But I hope I can compete on fair grd in the first place...

Thanks so much for the advice... It definitely clears those cloud on my head...
Nothing is ever really fair, especially when there's human factor involved. That's why it's better for those who wish to join the teaching profession to have the real passion for teaching, and not be too concerned over career progression nor monetary rewards. Its true while their starting salaries are one of the highest for non-uniform in the public sector, their progression usually stagnates pretty fast after 5 - 7 years.

But it is true that in general, even if you're not a good performer in the public sector, you'll still be able to rise to DD level if you're a graduate. It's just how long it'll take for you to reach that position only. Mind, there are loads of scholars who reached D level within 10 years, and yet farmers may not even reach AD level after 10 years. That's just how "fair" the system is.
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I thought ADs are mostly in MX 11?
Some min/agency labeled their AD as mx11... Those with AD title at scale 10 most
Prob equates to a snr ad position... At the end of the day, shld look at the scale.
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