Career as Teacher - Page 1028 - Salary.sg Forums
Salary.sg Forums  

Go Back   Salary.sg Forums > The Salary.sg Discussion Forums: > Income and Jobs

Income and Jobs Discuss jobs, career options and of course salaries




Career as Teacher

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #10271 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2024, 04:56 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Should I be expecting an increment for my March payroll?

Reply With Quote
  #10272 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2024, 05:01 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Should I be expecting an increment for my March payroll?
Increment is effective only from April.

Reply With Quote
  #10273 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2024, 11:31 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
i think the general consensus is to let officers "take turns" by rotating the good and average grades, and also to give timely opportunities for some people to promote

doing this will also stop some people from getting good or average grades all the time

this is both a good and bad thing at the same time though...
And this practice of 'taking turns' is a mockery of the appraisal system

If the appraisal system is working as intended, then people should be getting the grades that they deserve.

Reply With Quote
  #10274 (permalink)  
Old 06-03-2024, 06:50 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
i think the general consensus is to let officers "take turns" by rotating the good and average grades, and also to give timely opportunities for some people to promote

doing this will also stop some people from getting good or average grades all the time

this is both a good and bad thing at the same time though...
I've not observed this 'taking turns' system in effect, either in my own performance or as a member of an evaluation panel. Not uncommon for very high performers to get continuous of streaks of A/B.

I've seen default C in promotion year being observed, though, even though it's not an official requirement.
Reply With Quote
  #10275 (permalink)  
Old 06-03-2024, 07:39 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I've not observed this 'taking turns' system in effect, either in my own performance or as a member of an evaluation panel. Not uncommon for very high performers to get continuous of streaks of A/B.

I've seen default C in promotion year being observed, though, even though it's not an official requirement.
Backing this up. I had a string of Bs up until I got to GEO5 where i finally got my C+. Kinda understandable because I was up against SH's while I didn't have any position myself.
Reply With Quote
  #10276 (permalink)  
Old 06-03-2024, 08:07 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
And this practice of 'taking turns' is a mockery of the appraisal system

If the appraisal system is working as intended, then people should be getting the grades that they deserve.
Not sure why pple think that there is a default C. Was it explicitly mentioned by your RO or school leader?
It's an oversplification of a caveat that expectations are bound to be higher than what is expected of you.
Then perhaps this poor explanation stuck with some and as it spreads, it ends up infecting more pple to think that way.

The reality is if you are promoted and still doing a lot / new stuff for that new subgrade, it's very unlikely to get a default C. As a geo4/5 HOD, you are unlikely to get a C even in year of promotion. The same cannot be said if you are promoted to SEO because it is arguably whether you can perform as well in the new sub grade as experienced ones. If you are given opportunities to, and the other SEOs aren't pulling their weight... I doubt SLs would want to send a wrong signal and give the rest higher grades.
Reply With Quote

  #10277 (permalink)  
Old 06-03-2024, 09:09 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Not sure why pple think that there is a default C. Was it explicitly mentioned by your RO or school leader?
It's an oversplification of a caveat that expectations are bound to be higher than what is expected of you.
Then perhaps this poor explanation stuck with some and as it spreads, it ends up infecting more pple to think that way.

The reality is if you are promoted and still doing a lot / new stuff for that new subgrade, it's very unlikely to get a default C. As a geo4/5 HOD, you are unlikely to get a C even in year of promotion. The same cannot be said if you are promoted to SEO because it is arguably whether you can perform as well in the new sub grade as experienced ones. If you are given opportunities to, and the other SEOs aren't pulling their weight... I doubt SLs would want to send a wrong signal and give the rest higher grades.

Not the person who started saying this but yes, I can back this up as my RO did share this with me recently. If do a lot of work and not promoted, then better grade. If no promotion means better grade.
Reply With Quote
  #10278 (permalink)  
Old 06-03-2024, 11:25 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
And this practice of 'taking turns' is a mockery of the appraisal system

If the appraisal system is working as intended, then people should be getting the grades that they deserve.
[QUOTE=Unregistered;269872]And this practice of 'taking turns' is a mockery of the appraisal system

If the appraisal system is working as intended, then people should be getting the grades th

Honestly, in most instances, it doesn't matter how hard you work especially if you have a weak RO. It seems that the ones who do a lot of talking aka minimal work done get rewarded. So in essence,rded. get your satisfaction and reward from your students doing well.
Reply With Quote
  #10279 (permalink)  
Old 06-03-2024, 04:41 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

[QUOTE=Unregistered;269901]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
And this practice of 'taking turns' is a mockery of the appraisal system

If the appraisal system is working as intended, then people should be getting the grades th

Honestly, in most instances, it doesn't matter how hard you work especially if you have a weak RO. It seems that the ones who do a lot of talking aka minimal work done get rewarded. So in essence,rded. get your satisfaction and reward from your students doing well.
There is a saying that job progression is 70% your own capabilities and 30% meeting 贵人/right boss.
Agree that having the right superior plays a role also. If you are fortunate enough to meet one, make sure you learn as much as you can and count your blessings.

Btw, the default C for promoted officers is addressed as a myth on HROnline. Anyone that still quotes that, please show them the URL accordingly.
Reply With Quote
  #10280 (permalink)  
Old 06-03-2024, 06:39 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

[QUOTE=Unregistered;269928]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post

There is a saying that job progression is 70% your own capabilities and 30% meeting 贵人/right boss.
Agree that having the right superior plays a role also. If you are fortunate enough to meet one, make sure you learn as much as you can and count your blessings.

Btw, the default C for promoted officers is addressed as a myth on HROnline. Anyone that still quotes that, please show them the URL accordingly.
show them already also nothing much the subordinate can do...

in a system where the hierarchy is rigid and fixed, and in a top-down approach, even official protests or complaints wont go anywhere.

i guess the most practical solution is just to try out another RO.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
school teacher pay dazzlego Income and Jobs 10 30-07-2015 12:39 PM
Career advice for mid-career changer Rhin Income and Jobs 5 21-07-2010 11:21 PM

» 30 Recent Threads
Any Ministry or Statboard still... ( 1 2 3)
20 Replies, 14,301 Views
Civil Svc/ Statboard - Typical... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,549 Replies, 4,018,010 Views
Hospital (Private or Public)... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
976 Replies, 507,033 Views
Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
18,671 Replies, 5,588,486 Views
Engineer Pay ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
668 Replies, 486,820 Views
LTA (Land Transport Authority) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
925 Replies, 492,298 Views
DSO (under Mindef) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
53 Replies, 71,823 Views
IMDA (under MCI) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,435 Replies, 728,278 Views
DSTA (under Mindef) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,682 Replies, 1,513,461 Views
Career as Teacher ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
11,809 Replies, 7,255,275 Views
Lawyer Salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
21,455 Replies, 10,898,484 Views
Roles in accenture singapore ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
8,186 Replies, 2,598,710 Views
How is life as a doctor in... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
7,609 Replies, 3,669,372 Views
Early Retirement ( 1 2 3)
22 Replies, 18,077 Views
GovTech ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,669 Replies, 2,659,296 Views
Working in SIT (Singapore...
3 Replies, 6,109 Views
HSBC Bank ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
63 Replies, 119,982 Views
Compare civil service salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
16,528 Replies, 13,005,831 Views
UOB Management Associate Program ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,491 Replies, 838,499 Views
Rakuten Software Engineer (Fresh...
9 Replies, 6,343 Views
MAS for Mid Career Professionals ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
2,348 Replies, 1,198,028 Views
ST Electronics ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
3,968 Replies, 1,710,096 Views
NCS (SingTel subsidiary) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,586 Replies, 1,270,730 Views
Best Stat board/Ministry ( 1 2 3)
21 Replies, 38,881 Views
Work in SMU ( 1 2 3)
26 Replies, 9,715 Views
How much are you earning per annum? ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
14,389 Replies, 6,661,403 Views
For those with 2-5 YOE, what is... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,202 Replies, 481,701 Views
MINDEF DXO (All FAQ on it) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,112 Replies, 4,955,342 Views
HTX (Home Team Science and... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
955 Replies, 473,977 Views
SIM-UOL fresh grad starting pay ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,948 Replies, 3,012,891 Views
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2



All times are GMT +8. The time now is 10:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2