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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Work in semi private company.Very political environment and I still endure myself thinking something good will happen, unfortunately, it seems my effort wasted to keep myself endure. Profession as an engineer is meaningless for current position, only helping boss to do reporting, organize team building, do admin jobs, just like a retiree.There is a minor reorg that placed me in another job role which I'm not good at.
4 yrs in private and 2 yrs in semi private(used to be public, now privatized)- Currently salary $4.5k. Avg performer, Should I resign now on Jan 2018 and get a job after resigning? No point staying as my performance rating won't be good either based on my current job role now.

NO, bite the bullet until you can find a job then resign.

Please don't come into the unemployment market and compete with us cos there are people like me who have been unemployed for years...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

NO, bite the bullet until you can find a job then resign.

Please don't come into the unemployment market and compete with us cos there are people like me who have been unemployed for years...

I really do feel your challenges, are you an engineer as well?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I really do feel your challenges, are you an engineer as well?

No I am not an engineer....but it gets to me when people are gainfully employed yet wanting to resign without a job and here we are, all eyeing for the same pie (generally speaking).

Hello everyone, I am applying for a job in the civil service and had to fill out the G50 clearance form. Anyone can advise on what I should write for my siblings' details as I have lost contact with one of them. Would the last known details (and indicating that we lost contact) be sufficient? Anyone knows if they are very stringent regarding siblings' details?

TIA

hi guys, my husband wishes to quit civil service. He's one of the scholars (not the psc types but still alright), between 3 - 5 years into the job (keeping it vague). He wants to go into private sector but i'm trying to convince him not to - citing that private sector is super cut throat and hard to hit 10k. He's in one of the very niche / specialised area (i.e. not banking / accounting etc) so it would be hard to find another job.

would like to hear how you guys would convince someone like him to stay in civil service? like what are the benefits of staying in CS and the cons of being in private sector?

i myself am in private sector so I am terrified of being fired and not being able to hold the family together. imagine both of us in private sector - oh man.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi guys, my husband wishes to quit civil service. He's one of the scholars (not the psc types but still alright), between 3 - 5 years into the job (keeping it vague). He wants to go into private sector but i'm trying to convince him not to - citing that private sector is super cut throat and hard to hit 10k. He's in one of the very niche / specialised area (i.e. not banking / accounting etc) so it would be hard to find another job.

would like to hear how you guys would convince someone like him to stay in civil service? like what are the benefits of staying in CS and the cons of being in private sector?

i myself am in private sector so I am terrified of being fired and not being able to hold the family together. imagine both of us in private sector - oh man.

What is his motivation to join private? What is current remuneration package? I strongly encourage your Husband to apply for private jobs and possible attend a few interviews to understand the private job market. He will see things differently after that. As Long as he don’t quit his current job yet, it is fine to search.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi guys, my husband wishes to quit civil service. He's one of the scholars (not the psc types but still alright), between 3 - 5 years into the job (keeping it vague). He wants to go into private sector but i'm trying to convince him not to - citing that private sector is super cut throat and hard to hit 10k. He's in one of the very niche / specialised area (i.e. not banking / accounting etc) so it would be hard to find another job.

would like to hear how you guys would convince someone like him to stay in civil service? like what are the benefits of staying in CS and the cons of being in private sector?

i myself am in private sector so I am terrified of being fired and not being able to hold the family together. imagine both of us in private sector - oh man.

Ask your husband the reason he wants to leave CS.

Both of you should talk about this together. Do your value job stability? So long if you don't quit without a job you will be fine.

I am from the private sector and have never wanted to be in CS. I have scholar friends who joined CS and regretted within 2 years probably due to the culture and work. I think the salary package in CS should be fine. We are all in the early 30s.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ask your husband the reason he wants to leave CS.

Both of you should talk about this together. Do your value job stability? So long if you don't quit without a job you will be fine.

I am from the private sector and have never wanted to be in CS. I have scholar friends who joined CS and regretted within 2 years probably due to the culture and work. I think the salary package in CS should be fine. We are all in the early 30s.

This is what many of us are experiencing, especially robotics and automation are implemented in many job roles have made our job not needed anymore. In CS , I fount out many blaming culture that potentially finds some employees to be a scapegoat. Need to be self-aware and stay humble but firm at all times.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi guys, my husband wishes to quit civil service. He's one of the scholars (not the psc types but still alright), between 3 - 5 years into the job (keeping it vague). He wants to go into private sector but i'm trying to convince him not to - citing that private sector is super cut throat and hard to hit 10k. He's in one of the very niche / specialised area (i.e. not banking / accounting etc) so it would be hard to find another job.

would like to hear how you guys would convince someone like him to stay in civil service? like what are the benefits of staying in CS and the cons of being in private sector?

i myself am in private sector so I am terrified of being fired and not being able to hold the family together. imagine both of us in private sector - oh man.

how old is your hubby?
start working in CS since which year?
stat board or ministry?
what is his current basic salary now?

It would be great you you could provide such info for better comment/recommendation.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi guys, my husband wishes to quit civil service. He's one of the scholars (not the psc types but still alright), between 3 - 5 years into the job (keeping it vague). He wants to go into private sector but i'm trying to convince him not to - citing that private sector is super cut throat and hard to hit 10k. He's in one of the very niche / specialised area (i.e. not banking / accounting etc) so it would be hard to find another job.

would like to hear how you guys would convince someone like him to stay in civil service? like what are the benefits of staying in CS and the cons of being in private sector?

i myself am in private sector so I am terrified of being fired and not being able to hold the family together. imagine both of us in private sector - oh man.

Let me share my own strange experience. I started my working career in the civil sevice (in 1985) and ended up an employee of a private company while still working in the same company - 33 years in all!

What!? How is this possible?

I will not mention the company but suffice to say that as part of the government's plan to privatise and incentivise some of its service provider units to make them more efficient, and nimble in hiring (& firing) talents, quite a few departments/ organizations were made into statutory boards (SB) or private companies over the years. I happened to be working in one such department. In the process, I have to "resign" twice - once from the civil service and another time from the SB to become an employee of the fully privatised company. All the while I was and still am working in the same company ! Company logo changed each time and so has my title.

So what about the company culture? Has it changed along with the status of the company from being a civil service agency to a SB to a private company?

Most certainly yes! As a civil service department, we deal with other CS departments/ministries on equal footing. As an SB, we were still very much considered a CS outfit, except we had more flexibility in deciding bonuses and employment terms. Now as a private outfit, we find ourselves way down the foodchain in terms of standing and dealing with the SBs and CS. Sometimes, in fact, quite frequently, we were looked at as a vendor! For newer staff to the company, they would not know the difference, but for me as a veteran in the company, the change in status is sometimes too painful. Especially when you have to deal with former colleagues who have remained in the CS.

Workload wise, we now have to proactively look for business unlike in CS where we wait for work to be assigned to us. We have to worry about bottom line now. Bonuses are more varied and the spread is wider between top and bottom performers. And of course, you can be asked to go if you dont make the cut.