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Old 20-01-2024, 05:03 PM
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Actually is 240kpa. Not yet 265kpa. So is ministry or stat board like LTA etc has better chance for similar pay at director level?

I remember there are many comments here about well paid PS/CS with some even starting pay $5kpm and above. Because I started with less than 2.5 kpm fourteen years ago.
Well paid does not mean highest paid.
Is stable with WLB, and can work for long time.
No need act blur, you earn more in private does it mean you can keep earning more or even at same rate when you old?
If so, no need to consider CS/PS.

More importantly, do you have heart to serve or just out to get $.
If no heart to serve, personal advice is also no need to consider CS/PS

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Old 20-01-2024, 05:44 PM
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HR asked me to share expected annual salary including breakdown of bonuses. How to do so since PB and AVM are based on performance and Singapore’s economy respectively?

for local U 2nd upper fresh grad, how much should I be quoting?

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Well paid does not mean highest paid.
Is stable with WLB, and can work for long time.
No need act blur, you earn more in private does it mean you can keep earning more or even at same rate when you old?
If so, no need to consider CS/PS.

More importantly, do you have heart to serve or just out to get $.
If no heart to serve, personal advice is also no need to consider CS/PS
Do all the CS/PS have heart to serve?

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I am not prepared to take a huge pay cut. So 14 YOE, what is the expected range of salary in CS/PS?
14 YOE probably they will offer you 8k.

On a good year prob 140k pa
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Do all the CS/PS have heart to serve?
got enough heart to take like 30% paycut to join ps sia. i think dont say until so noble, i join cos i needed a little more purpose than just making ends meet, see if i can make a difference lor.
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Do all the CS/PS have heart to serve?
IMO, basically 3 aspects to a long term career:
(1) Professional suitability --- your skills match the role
(2) Personal suitability --- your character match the traits required for the job
(3) Purpose --- your life purpose

(1) is basic requirement, (2) and (3) are additional points
Technically (2) and (3) are not required for the job, but if you want to have meaningful life, it is better to align.

There's no precise ways to measure all these for employers.
But for employees, they should be honest to themselves and choose how to live their lives.
Some people don't and it is their choice. (either consciously or unconsciously)


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Sorry to say.. in singapore, u work because you need to feed your heart at home.. only those super rich then got eligibility to say work for hard and passion.. no money, no family, talk what heart.. there’s no noble ppl in this country..
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2nd lower local u with NS, 2 YOE joining PS, last drawn 4k. how much salary will hr offer?
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Not quite true for Director level in which I think the average person has a chance of attaining, but probably true for DS and above.

But I estimate that a person who ends up at MX10 (Senior Assistant Director/Deputy Director) in his mid-forties or fifties will probably draw 180k to 200k in a good year, which is not bad considering the job stability at that age.
Any idea if MX9 or MX10 direct hire for CS/PS position is common?
Or are people supposed to be promoted into the role only after few years in PS/CS?
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Any idea if MX9 or MX10 direct hire for CS/PS position is common?
Or are people supposed to be promoted into the role only after few years in PS/CS?
Direct hire for MX9 (Directors) is uncommon unless you have very specialised skillsets OR have been in civil service before in your career. Direct hires for MX10 (Senior Assistant Director/Deputy Directors) are quite common - just go see careers.gov
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