How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

?? brainless best to keep quiet rather than speak and remove all doubts
you think SGD 2.3K very big ah?

Even hawkers are paying >$3,000 per month, and probably working less or comparable hours.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

rubbish
most countries accept medical schools as long as it is listed on the world directory of medical schools
s://.who.int/teams/health-workforce/world-directory-of-medical-schools

however most countries required that u take a local licensing examination - PLAB for UK, USMLE for US, AMC for australia etc

How sg decide is really up to anyone guess. Prestige of the school , performance history of graduates from the school is one.

For Eg, ANU , australia national university set up its medical school not too long ago ( 2007 i think) but it got recognized in 2009

Anyway, even if your school isn't on the registrable list , you can actually apply to take the YSLLOM final professional exams and be allowed to get provisional registration in SG to start as an intern

That WHO list of med schools is no big deal. You try applying for a licence to practice in North America based solely on that WHO list you are not gonna get very far.
Does SG simply allow any dr who is from one of those recognized med schools to practice in SG? You need to have recognized post grad training as well. Even for SG GP work also need some assessment period.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That WHO list of med schools is no big deal. You try applying for a licence to practice in North America based solely on that WHO list you are not gonna get very far.
Does SG simply allow any dr who is from one of those recognized med schools to practice in SG? You need to have recognized post grad training as well. Even for SG GP work also need some assessment period.

Even if graduating one of those recognized medical school and post-graduate training, you still have to be in a supervised role for 1-2 years before you're allowed independent practice.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Even if graduating one of those recognized medical school and post-graduate training, you still have to be in a supervised role for 1-2 years before you're allowed independent practice.

Depends which country and what qualifications one has. If have MRCGP UK or FRACGP it is recognized as equivalent to MMED Fam Med.
Other specialties also depends on experience etc.
Whole process can be a little bit subjective as well.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Depends which country and what qualifications one has. If have MRCGP UK or FRACGP it is recognized as equivalent to MMED Fam Med.
Other specialties also depends on experience etc.
Whole process can be a little bit subjective as well.

ah no?
hospital don't recogise it as a suitable post grad qualification and at the polyclinic with a fracgp, mrcgp, Hong kong one one etc, u are on the fp pathway, not the consultant fp pathway which only the m.meders can be on. fyi gdfm put you on the fp pathway.
I think they are the same la, 3 years of training in all cases. but FM has a lot of local contextualisation. I go over to auzzie also blur about their aboriginal health, they come over to sg they know how much of chronic hep b or our social services?
interestingly someone I know who had a fracgp feels that just because there is a word fellow in his qualification, he should be equivalent to the fcfps. very funny and perhaps reeking too much of an ego.. in America, they award diplomas in their board specialities. I really dun think our diploma in dermatology is equivalent to the USA diploma in dermatology lei.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

ah no?
hospital don't recogise it as a suitable post grad qualification and at the polyclinic with a fracgp, mrcgp, Hong kong one one etc, u are on the fp pathway, not the consultant fp pathway which only the m.meders can be on. fyi gdfm put you on the fp pathway.
I think they are the same la, 3 years of training in all cases. but FM has a lot of local contextualisation. I go over to auzzie also blur about their aboriginal health, they come over to sg they know how much of chronic hep b or our social services?
interestingly someone I know who had a fracgp feels that just because there is a word fellow in his qualification, he should be equivalent to the fcfps. very funny and perhaps reeking too much of an ego.. in America, they award diplomas in their board specialities. I really dun think our diploma in dermatology is equivalent to the USA diploma in dermatology lei.

Looks like the mmeders have become very powerful and very protective of their turf.
I think this is good for local mmeders. No more kow tow to the foreign qualifications now.
The difference though is that sg mmeders if they go to other countries they do get some recognition now. So it is easier for sg fam mmeders to go abroad to work. No wonder they put the salary high high otherwise brain drain!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Looks like the mmeders have become very powerful and very protective of their turf.
I think this is good for local mmeders. No more kow tow to the foreign qualifications now.
The difference though is that sg mmeders if they go to other countries they do get some recognition now. So it is easier for sg fam mmeders to go abroad to work. No wonder they put the salary high high otherwise brain drain!

sg never kow tow before what.
our local standard of medicine v good. most R2 or r3 IM mo prolly better than some regs I've seen in australia. some of the comm hosp fcfp practice at a very high level also.

last time a m.med let u convert to fracgp directly. later as their gp become more and more it requires a fellowship and now Australia don't even recog the fellowship at all.
NZ still recog ours though!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

sg never kow tow before what.
our local standard of medicine v good. most R2 or r3 IM mo prolly better than some regs I've seen in australia. some of the comm hosp fcfp practice at a very high level also.

last time a m.med let u convert to fracgp directly. later as their gp become more and more it requires a fellowship and now Australia don't even recog the fellowship at all.
NZ still recog ours though!

I suggest change mmed exam to fellowship.
Once u pass mmed u are conferred fellowship.

Then make all mbbs md graduates later 2022 to have minimally fellowship to practice.

If not they have to work in the hospital.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

sg never kow tow before what.
our local standard of medicine v good. most R2 or r3 IM mo prolly better than some regs I've seen in australia. some of the comm hosp fcfp practice at a very high level also.

last time a m.med let u convert to fracgp directly. later as their gp become more and more it requires a fellowship and now Australia don't even recog the fellowship at all.
NZ still recog ours though!

Never kow tow?
Your IM rhey dont fly to UK take MRCP?
MRCS?
Only Fam med do local exam only. Mmed. No need any foreign exam.
All other specialties take foreign exam.
I was told the GP side of things is cos in 1970s many migrated to Australia. Used to be GP also take MRCGP or FRACGP. MOH invited foreign examiners. But later all recognized easy for brain drain. So MOH stopped. Ng
The day no kow tow is when IM and surgeons all take MMED local exams only no foreign exams needed. You dont see Drs from Australia or Canada or USA or UK needing to take foreiģn exams.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I suggest change mmed exam to fellowship.
Once u pass mmed u are conferred fellowship.

Then make all mbbs md graduates later 2022 to have minimally fellowship to practice.

If not they have to work in the hospital.

er. cannot
FM will be recognised as speciality this year.
m.med as intermediate. fellowship as final exit exam become fam med specialist.
same as other speciality.