How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Hi,

I'm Singaporean who did MRCGP in UK. My MBBS isn't on the recognised list and I just qualified as a GP there. Looking around - I will end up under conditional registration.

If I came back to SG and join OPS - will I join as a RP or AC? What is the salary range? I was told it's $6800 a month?????

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi,

I'm Singaporean who did MRCGP in UK. My MBBS isn't on the recognised list and I just qualified as a GP there. Looking around - I will end up under conditional registration.

If I came back to SG and join OPS - will I join as a RP or AC? What is the salary range? I was told it's $6800 a month?????

Ops want to take U or not, before U go hiam 6.8k nia.
Unproven capability to work in local setting lei.
I clinic head hire U, U turn out to be slow and dunno what to do I also headache.

Usually mopex 1 year they think U ok then will hire you.
Because 6 months later U no good, dun choose U for next posting lo
Hire U straight, even if contract , also 1 year later then can don't renew.


U no local m.med cannot get ac.
Newly qualified gp might not fufil practice requirement in sg to get fp.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ops want to take U or not, before U go hiam 6.8k nia.
Unproven capability to work in local setting lei.
I clinic head hire U, U turn out to be slow and dunno what to do I also headache.

Usually mopex 1 year they think U ok then will hire you.
Because 6 months later U no good, dun choose U for next posting lo
Hire U straight, even if contract , also 1 year later then can don't renew.


U no local m.med cannot get ac.
Newly qualified gp might not fufil practice requirement in sg to get fp.

Just to add on.
U know whats worse than no manpower?
Hiring lousy many power.

No one to work , basically clinic just shut queue and reduce overall load.
Hire U means one day clinic must take in at least 45 patient more
U turn out to be char siew , see 20 patient a day nia, the other 25 must distribute to others lei. Working style different , everyday get feedback , boss handle complaints also sian
Many ops boss kenna burnt when they take Indians and pinoy and Malaysian last time.
Now weary and scared liao
120 FM resident every year.
Give 3 or 5 years , so much manpower can cheery pick liao.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just to add on.
U know whats worse than no manpower?
Hiring lousy many power.

No one to work , basically clinic just shut queue and reduce overall load.
Hire U means one day clinic must take in at least 45 patient more
U turn out to be char siew , see 20 patient a day nia, the other 25 must distribute to others lei. Working style different , everyday get feedback , boss handle complaints also sian
Many ops boss kenna burnt when they take Indians and pinoy and Malaysian last time.
Now weary and scared liao
120 FM resident every year.
Give 3 or 5 years , so much manpower can cheery pick liao.

Maybe there will be a day where even fm resident no job in ops for them. (Like to ac spots for some of the hospital specialist who exited?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Maybe there will be a day where even fm resident no job in ops for them. (Like to ac spots for some of the hospital specialist who exited?

That day will come.
Some clinic in my cluster already full.
My time is I choose the clinic I want and they were so glad got extra manpower.
Now is, take it or leave it.


What they will do is
Make internship 2 years.
Pgy2 before can apply residency.
However hospital clinician opening open at pgy3.
This will temp those who didn't get in to take up HC job
Extend conditional reg to 4 years even for local, 5 years for overseas Singaporean grad and 6 years for foreign grads
Now U want break bond also no use because U not full reg.


Ah bo U got those 2022 graduate one break bond open clinic.
Piang ey, urti I also dun trust them to treat.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That day will come.
Some clinic in my cluster already full.
My time is I choose the clinic I want and they were so glad got extra manpower.
Now is, take it or leave it.


What they will do is
Make internship 2 years.
Pgy2 before can apply residency.
However hospital clinician opening open at pgy3.
This will temp those who didn't get in to take up HC job
Extend conditional reg to 4 years even for local, 5 years for overseas Singaporean grad and 6 years for foreign grads
Now U want break bond also no use because U not full reg.


Ah bo U got those 2022 graduate one break bond open clinic.
Piang ey, urti I also dun trust them to treat.

I feel that there will come a day where you probably need fcfp to get promoted to AC (i.e mmed alone not enough) due to the oversupply of fm residents as mentioned earlier in the thread. It may reach a scenario, where all ops fps need to be mmed and above, and only those keen to do fcfp will stay long term.

The oversupply of FM is very concerning.
My advise to those considering FM or even breaking bond for GP land is to think really hard and exhaust all options first. Ironically some competitive specialities are much easier to get in now as competition is waning.
With so much oversupply of primary care doctors, the only way for incomes is either stagnating or down.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The oversupply of FM is very concerning.
My advise to those considering FM or even breaking bond for GP land is to think really hard and exhaust all options first. Ironically some competitive specialities are much easier to get in now as competition is waning.
With so much oversupply of primary care doctors, the only way for incomes is either stagnating or down.

It wouldn't surprise me if the government start pushing for specialist again in 5-10 years time, just like they were pushing fm for past 10 years.
I feel that fm in general, very difficult to get a competitive edge over your peers, as the bread and butter things can be handled by most competent doctors with some form of ops experience.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It wouldn't surprise me if the government start pushing for specialist again in 5-10 years time, just like they were pushing fm for past 10 years.
I feel that fm in general, very difficult to get a competitive edge over your peers, as the bread and butter things can be handled by most competent doctors with some form of ops experience.

Well there's always rumours that FM will get included in SAB so...

Running FM like OPS sweatshop will definitely devalue it la. But if they want to make it proper FM like in angmoh land there will definitely be a role for all the MMeders and FCFPers.

Whether Singaporeans can accept seeing a high level "GP" is another matter. Many just want SOC referrals.

hows bonus this year?