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Old 19-03-2024, 11:15 PM
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geo 4 - 6000-8000
geo 5 - 8000-10000


How is that possible when the max salary for a normal teacher is 8k? -_-

Anyhow leh.

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After the 2022 revision...

GEO3: 3900-6250
GEO4: 4800-7700
GEO5: 5150-8250

Source: Taken from another post. But looking at it, the numbers add up. Max is really 8250 for HOT. Do take note that this range...covers both diploma and degree holders. So hence the huge range.

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The problem with public feedback is that it's very simplistic. "Just do X!" Anyone who's ever done any policy work knows that it's not as easy as that.

I guess that's what separates HQ officers from normal teachers. The latter just don't have that special quality in them.
Any teachers on the ground knows that policies don't work, because they are thought up by HQ officers who think they are special, but in reality aren't really special nor outstanding.

Add unnecessary complications to simple, straightforward things.

Just look at how the syllabi were rushed out, and the poor quality of materials prepared by HQ to replace the far more superior textbooks that were already out there.

Or how new policies were hastily announced, without preparing concrete detailed plans for implementation.

Or how during pre-covid era, all the wayang about home based learning, smart nation.

End up when actually need to do HBL, get exposed that everything looks good on paper only, and reality tells a different story.

Some scholar probably got excellent appraisal score for reporting that every household got computer access, got internet access, can access SLS.

Until covid exposed the real situation on the ground, where the entire family shares a parent's company laptop, and that SLS (most probably awarded to cheapest tender, based on the lowest end specs) actually don't have the bandwidth to support the entire student population logging in at the same time.

All these reeks of penny-wise pound-foolish policies, conceived by people with myopic vision and missing the big picture.

That, is the real calibre of policymaking folks at HQ



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If I get a reservist callup and the school's deferment request is rejected, there is nothing the school or even the Ministry can do right?
It depends. If your ministry is willing to justify
why 6 months' notice is not sufficient for school
to prepare for your absence, they can try.
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i know of my ntu acquaintance ah wu, who joined teaching because no choice, very judgmental and flawed character and kind of explained why no choice, so go NIE. fake it till you make it. ironically became CCE subject head of some west side primary school. wonder what values he try to smoke haha
It is like the long term undercover mole in the police force.

Sometimes, they actually become what they originally pretended.
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Old 20-03-2024, 02:08 PM
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The problem with public feedback is that it's very simplistic. "Just do X!" Anyone who's ever done any policy work knows that it's not as easy as that.

I guess that's what separates HQ officers from normal teachers. The latter just don't have that special quality in them.

agreed, normal teachers lack the special ability to sugarcoat and inflate.

Generally, HQ officers tend to be book smart but struggles when confronted with real-world uncertainties. They make good managers and often use bureaucracy to hide their many shortcomings. However, in recent years, many farmer-quality teachers have been somehow gotten a stint in HQ. They think they are on par with the scholars, but gets exposed when they couldnt keep with the rest of the herd

Normal teachers tend to feel weary and jaded of the system after 5-6 years, and would resort to their own unconventional methods/means to arrive at what they think is best for students.
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There is no more automatic, time-bound mechanism for this.
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How is that possible when the max salary for a normal teacher is 8k? -_-

Anyhow leh.
About half the answers in this forum, it is up to you to choose what to believe.
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After the 2022 revision...

GEO3: 3900-6250
GEO4: 4800-7700
GEO5: 5150-8250

Source: Taken from another post. But looking at it, the numbers add up. Max is really 8250 for HOT. Do take note that this range...covers both diploma and degree holders. So hence the huge range.
teachers must be one of the worst paid in the service
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Care to elaborate?
Err.. it literally means what it says. Officers are no longer automatically identified for promotion after spending a certain time in their grade. The time itself is far less important now as compared to performance and potential.
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