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Old 15-07-2013, 07:49 AM
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dont worry lah. In all likelihood, the police wont inform your Ministry.

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Hi all,

Need some advice from folks from the civil service.

Recently, I had a brush with the law. What happened was I had a quarrel with a cab driver (who endangered my family's life with his reckless driving). To cut the long story short, I confronted him and, in the fit of anger, I kicked his door although I did not touch him at all. He subsequently lodged a police report and now I am being investigated for road rage. I explained to the police my side of the story as well as submitted the video footage of the cab's reckless driving. I also admitted to the police that I have over-reacted and am willing to apologize and make restitution to the cab driver for the damage done to his door. Personally, I do feel that I have made a mistake and should not have taken the law in my own hands.

Anyway, the police has asked for my particulars, including my ministry. The officer said that the decision to inform my ministry lies with his senior management. The outcome of the investigation is still pending.

My question is what happens if they do inform my ministry, even if in the end, I am not charged. What's the worst that can happen? Is my career in the civil service down the drain already?

Thanks.

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dont worry lah. In all likelihood, the police wont inform your Ministry.
you never know. i can sense that the civil service is doing some internal cleansing now, so it will not surprise me if such records get into the civil service HR system.

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aiya, people like you just wanna hope others screw up and suffer. haha.

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you never know. i can sense that the civil service is doing some internal cleansing now, so it will not surprise me if such records get into the civil service HR system.

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Nah...It is not that easy to downgrade one's CEP (just as it is hard to enhance it). Needs to go through senior management (i.e. PS) approval. And I don't agree that bosses would be so quick and keen put down their staff. It is not as if they are waiting everyday in office for something bad to crop up and then they capitalise on it. Similar incidents have happened in my department but my bosses and HR have protected their staff. So don't worry.
You don't need PS' approval to change CEP. Ds and DDs propose and it is generally approved by DS/CE. Ranking is highly competitive, with grade quotas. If police contacts your bosses, it won't help.
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Old 16-07-2013, 01:53 AM
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okay okay, that guy will get condemned forever and sentenced to hang. Happy?

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You don't need PS' approval to change CEP. Ds and DDs propose and it is generally approved by DS/CE. Ranking is highly competitive, with grade quotas. If police contacts your bosses, it won't help.
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Not true. I work in one of the Ministries with uniform groups (not hard to guess which one). Unless it has been proven that the officer is guilty, the organisation will not take any actions. And from the police's perspective, it is not part of the standard protocol to write to government agency or statutory board for each incident.

If you think about it, it takes a chain of events for you to face any negative consequence. Firstly, the police must write to the organisation. Secondly, your boss receives it and change his/her impression of you because of that. Thirdly, your boss decides to punish you by downgrading your CEP.

Nothing has happened thus far right?

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Not true. I work in one of the Ministries with uniform groups (not hard to guess which one). Unless it has been proven that the officer is guilty, the organisation will not take any actions. And from the police's perspective, it is not part of the standard protocol to write to government agency or statutory board for each incident.

If you think about it, it takes a chain of events for you to face any negative consequence. Firstly, the police must write to the organisation. Secondly, your boss receives it and change his/her impression of you because of that. Thirdly, your boss decides to punish you by downgrading your CEP.

Nothing has happened thus far right?
Best if police doesn't contact your boss la...
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Not true. I work in one of the Ministries with uniform groups (not hard to guess which one). Unless it has been proven that the officer is guilty, the organisation will not take any actions. And from the police's perspective, it is not part of the standard protocol to write to government agency or statutory board for each incident.

If you think about it, it takes a chain of events for you to face any negative consequence. Firstly, the police must write to the organisation. Secondly, your boss receives it and change his/her impression of you because of that. Thirdly, your boss decides to punish you by downgrading your CEP.

Nothing has happened thus far right?
Maybe that guy was stupid enough to confess to his boss? He's already stupid enough to post this on the internet.
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Maybe that guy was stupid enough to confess to his boss? He's already stupid enough to post this on the internet.
Nope, I have not 'stupidly' informed my boss. Posted it here because I hope to get some views/opinions from people who work in the civil service, hopefully those from HR.

Nothing had happened yet because the police is still processing the case. They said to wait for their decision. Maybe they got sidetracked by the Kovan murder case. It's the same division.

Thanks for the views everyone.
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Old 19-07-2013, 12:32 AM
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Hi would like to know for MX13 how much to expect with:

Local Uni
2nd lower honours
female/No NS

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