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Old 06-09-2012, 05:34 PM
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does anyone know the rank of E-4 in ST? I Was talking to one of my friends over coffee and we kinda were having a heated discussion pertaining to rank structure. Can anyone advised what "Rank" is E-4 with regards to qualifications and promotion prospects?
ST mean Singtel or ST engineering? Anyway both are GLC, government linked company, they follow the same rank structure.

E4 rank is basically for poly grad as "assistant engineer" or "engineering assistant', thus the pay should be 1.5k to 2.5k range.

E5 - for fresh degree grad, as engineer, 2.5k to 3.8k range, on average 3 year to hit E6

E6 - senior engineer, 3k to 4.5k range, on average 3 years to hit M1

M1 - assistant principal engineer, 4k to 5.5k range

M2 - assistant principal engineer, 4.5k to 7k range

M3- principle engineer, salary i dunno, more than 5k to 10k

M4/M5/M6 - senior principal engineer/senior manager/director of dept 6k to 12k ??

G1/G2/G3 - dy chief engineer/chief engineer/asst GM/ dy GM/VP...etc


should be like that!!!! is approx value!!!

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This thread is making my saliva drip. I work 3 yrs in private sector and quit few months back. Now apply many jobs through careers.gov.sg. Sad to say no reply so far.

Can't take it in private sector, lots of FT which depress my pay severely. I'm a local NTU grad, 2nd upper with NS. gets 3k in private after working for 3 yrs, 3 annual increment. AWS is fixed and PB around 1.5 mths.

My pay after 3 yrs can't even match starting pay of a pass degree in public sector. It hurts when I see how people complain about their pay as a civil servant.

Keep checking my application status, only 2 is 'in progress', the rest 'submitted'. Is it possible for HR to call even when status is 'submitted'? I'm at a loss now.

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This thread is making my saliva drip. I work 3 yrs in private sector and quit few months back. Now apply many jobs through careers.gov.sg. Sad to say no reply so far.

Can't take it in private sector, lots of FT which depress my pay severely. I'm a local NTU grad, 2nd upper with NS. gets 3k in private after working for 3 yrs, 3 annual increment. AWS is fixed and PB around 1.5 mths.

My pay after 3 yrs can't even match starting pay of a pass degree in public sector. It hurts when I see how people complain about their pay as a civil servant.

Keep checking my application status, only 2 is 'in progress', the rest 'submitted'. Is it possible for HR to call even when status is 'submitted'? I'm at a loss now.
wtf after 3 years only 3k??? somemore 2nd upper?

male with NS 2nd upper already getting 3.5k/3.6k starting!!!in civil service
and after 3 years in civil service should be getting 4.3k/4.4k....already at least!!!

I also wanted to join!!

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wtf after 3 years only 3k??? somemore 2nd upper?

male with NS 2nd upper already getting 3.5k/3.6k starting!!!in civil service
and after 3 years in civil service should be getting 4.3k/4.4k....already at least!!!

I also wanted to join!!
I started off with 2.5k, that time 2008 recession, as a fresh grad I can't be picky. at 2.5k, somehow my FT colleague knows and tell me in the face she is unhappy as I'm getting more than her with 1 yr experience.

2.5k to 3k in 3 years, so when civil servants complain and compare here, I don't know what to say!
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I started off with 2.5k, that time 2008 recession, as a fresh grad I can't be picky. at 2.5k, somehow my FT colleague knows and tell me in the face she is unhappy as I'm getting more than her with 1 yr experience.

2.5k to 3k in 3 years, so when civil servants complain and compare here, I don't know what to say!
actually with your 2nd upper, it it engineering?

you can join GLC like STeng at 3k with NS with 2nd upper at that time 2008.
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actually with your 2nd upper, it it engineering?

you can join GLC like STeng at 3k with NS with 2nd upper at that time 2008.
engineering but useless field in SGP. got job I just take first. Too bad I went for 2 stat board interviews last yr but can't get in.

Now die die must get a job. Last month and now I think apply >10 govt jobs, waiting for interview.
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engineering but useless field in SGP. got job I just take first. Too bad I went for 2 stat board interviews last yr but can't get in.

Now die die must get a job. Last month and now I think apply >10 govt jobs, waiting for interview.
i thought there are too many jobs chasing too few talents here in this island country?
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i thought there are too many jobs chasing too few talents here in this island country?
If only you have relevant experience, especially marine, oil&gas. I've been applying for countless engineer role since april and totally no calls. My asking pay is only 3-3.2k. Almost all companies want employees with experience. My last job is in a lab, dead future so want to move to engineering role.

Gave up and now want to get into civil service, seems like their pay is more reasonable. I'm almost 30 and I don't think I want to accept lower than 3k in private sector and start from scratch.
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i thought there are too many jobs chasing too few talents here in this island country?
they dun appreciate talents. They think those that do well in JCs are talents because they made them scholars. Scholars talk only but no action. They look at NUS/NTU/SMU, and they tot they are the smart ones.
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they dun appreciate talents. They think those that do well in JCs are talents because they made them scholars. Scholars talk only but no action. They look at NUS/NTU/SMU, and they tot they are the smart ones.
So are you implying that anyone who studied at a local university is neither smart nor talented?
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