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Old 29-09-2023, 04:46 PM
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In SG aesthetics generally make more money compared derm. So you can consider opening a medical spa with your credentials. Take home easily 70-80k/month for first year. Up to 120k-150k/month once you are more established in your second and third years.
Lolol
U the one who spam all the posts about how much aesthetic is earning?
Troll indeed.

Aesthetic earn more than derm????
Hello...derm is like the proper aesthetic speciality ok.
All your coc, a dermatologist dun need.
They open a shop, hang their credentials business come liao
No need go write long story about their interest , where they train and bluff the lay public about their American diploma of aesthetic medicine.


Medical spa.
Lolololololololol

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Old 29-09-2023, 05:55 PM
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US Derm here board-certified by ABD. Out in practice x 2 years. MD and residency from universities recognized by SMC. SG citizen.

Looking to practice medical and surgical derm with minor cosmetics. Comfortable with complex medical derm (including Cyclosporine, IVIg, biologics and JAKs), and most single-stage local flaps (but non-Mohs). Currently seeing 50 patients per day.

May I know what is a reasonable annual remuneration that I can expect to receive including bonus and CPF contributions etc? Any bonus for peer-reviewed publications in high impact journals like JAAD/JEADV/BJD/JAMA? Thanks in advance.
U sounds very professional.
May apply to nuh or any other tertiary academic centre
The ballpark for a senior consultant at academic centre with good publication is 450k
After taxes abt 400k annual

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Old 29-09-2023, 07:00 PM
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Lolol
U the one who spam all the posts about how much aesthetic is earning?
Troll indeed.

Aesthetic earn more than derm????
Hello...derm is like the proper aesthetic speciality ok.
All your coc, a dermatologist dun need.
They open a shop, hang their credentials business come liao
No need go write long story about their interest , where they train and bluff the lay public about their American diploma of aesthetic medicine.


Medical spa.
Lolololololololol


Lol even specialists also made the jump into aesthetics. Curtis Medical’s anchor doctor was a former pediatric nephrologist trained in the US… even worked in KKH as a consultant… but still quit her trade and go all-in into aesthetics

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Old 29-09-2023, 07:39 PM
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Lolol
U the one who spam all the posts about how much aesthetic is earning?
Troll indeed.

Aesthetic earn more than derm????
Hello...derm is like the proper aesthetic speciality ok.
All your coc, a dermatologist dun need.
They open a shop, hang their credentials business come liao
No need go write long story about their interest , where they train and bluff the lay public about their American diploma of aesthetic medicine.


Medical spa.
Lolololololololol
Don’t jealous leh.
OPS got time to type reply in between patients?
Just because you don’t know doesn’t mean don’t exist
Continue living in your little bubble and maybe you’ll retire with a fully paid off OCR condo
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Old 29-09-2023, 09:07 PM
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Months come and go yet no pay increaese, now boss say dont know how long
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Months come and go yet no pay increaese, now boss say dont know how long
Heard hospitals will be getting this month.
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Old 29-09-2023, 10:02 PM
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Don’t jealous leh.
OPS got time to type reply in between patients?
Just because you don’t know doesn’t mean don’t exist
Continue living in your little bubble and maybe you’ll retire with a fully paid off OCR condo
Got. I senior enough to do a lot of admin ma
Even if see patient also not slow.
U know what u doing can clear fast.
In between still got time see stock market
Set agenda , come in , talk finish bye bye liao. Next.
One morning clear 30 with a few complex one no problem.
Just a bit sian but no choice la. Got to earn my keep

But so sad.
Nowhere near 30k per month
Only 23/24k nia.


Any pro aesthestician want to take in a well trained ops f.p?

P.s : no condo la. I live in old hdb. Go and lock up my money in a house for what?
Leave for my children? No la. Going to retire early and travel the world.


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Got. I senior enough to do a lot of admin ma
Even if see patient also not slow.
U know what u doing can clear fast.
In between still got time see stock market
Set agenda , come in , talk finish bye bye liao. Next.
One morning clear 30 with a few complex one no problem.
Just a bit sian but no choice la. Got to earn my keep

But so sad.
Nowhere near 30k per month
Only 23/24k nia.


Any pro aesthestician want to take in a well trained ops f.p?

P.s : no condo la. I live in old hdb. Go and lock up my money in a house for what?
Leave for my children? No la. Going to retire early and travel the world.
23/24k a month not bad la
Ok if you find Fam Med work and admin satisfying and not stressful. Personally I find patient interaction the most potential for stress. Cos it's people. And you never know who you kena. Strong BPD types really can drag things on and take up time etc.
What I find sianz is also there is no performance related factor when it comes to clinical work. Got lah. Is how FAST you clear right? Faster you clear like you "better". But that's not really performance lah. Like actual results for the patient. Also very boring. Follow CPG. First line. 2nd line. Say same things over and over again.
I was so bored and sianz then keep hearing patients repeat to me what Dr Google says about this and that treatment is no good and "harmful". Aiyah why argue with me? You want you consider my advice lah. You dowan then just say you will decline. Finish. Must convert the Fam Dr to agree with you and swear off big pharma drug options?
So I moved into the alternative options. And interestingly made a career in it! So now it is all quite "experimental". Not to me lah cos I have been doing this for several years now. But most doctors have no knowledge whatsoever of these therapies. But got considerable demand for the small number of us physicians that do this work. Getting more recognition now from the authorities. There is no "existing protocol". We are writing the protocols for the regulatory body to learn from essentially. Exciting. And we never get people saying I dowan your treatment program leh. Then why you come?
Is like those Aesthetics. No patient goes there not wanting botox fillers or cosmetic procedures. Otherwise go there for what right?
I guess what I am trying to say is you need to find something you enjoy doing. Something that keeps you mentally stimulated. And also serve clients/patients/customers that are not often arguing with you on how you do your work. Need buy in early on from the customers/patients/clients.
As for money, I never thought this work would be lucrative. But hell yeah!
BTW I am in USA/Canada. Not Singapore.
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U sounds very professional.
May apply to nuh or any other tertiary academic centre
The ballpark for a senior consultant at academic centre with good publication is 450k
After taxes abt 400k annual
Thank you. That's a respectable salary.

Is it recommended to complete 5 years of independent practice before applying to NUH/academic centers?

Is publication necessary for promotion to senior consultant or is it simply a matter of putting in my time and providing good patient care?
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In SG aesthetics generally make more money compared derm. So you can consider opening a medical spa with your credentials. Take home easily 70-80k/month for first year. Up to 120k-150k/month once you are more established in your second and third years.
Cosmetic patients tend to present with more demanding personalities requiring significant hand holding.

Maybe in the future, but for now I prefer to focus on building up a roster of medical and surgical derm patients whom I get along with, and gradually convert those to cosmetics if they desire.
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