Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

30k per month. Not a lawyer.

Smart move. Were you one before? Why did you quit?

Does anybody have any info on the Judicial Associate scheme with the FJC? Is this an MXO (does this even apply?) scheme or a JO scheme? Pay?

Anyone finding trouble to secure a TC?

I just graduated and it seems most firms do not pay for Part A and B.

I kindda made the wrong choice to study law overseas

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyone finding trouble to secure a TC?

I just graduated and it seems most firms do not pay for Part A and B.

I kindda made the wrong choice to study law overseas

Really? Maybe it's because your school/grades too lousy?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Really? Maybe it's because your school/grades too lousy?

Don't be a dick.

To the original poster, it's tough. I also graduated from UK law school recently (probably a few batches ahead of you). became associate at some small firm. while i understand the no income part is shitty, everyday i ****ing regret studying law and getting into this shitty business. the work is thankless, low paying and the career prospects aren't as great as what everyone tells you since the skills aren't necessarily transferable (believe me i have tried). furthermore, it's a business full of cheats and you may find yourself hating the fact that your bosses are plain ****ing dishonest, lazy and not interested in your development. you're better off going somewhere else and learning something useful.

Take it as a blessing in disguise.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Don't be a dick.

To the original poster, it's tough. I also graduated from UK law school recently (probably a few batches ahead of you). became associate at some small firm. while i understand the no income part is shitty, everyday i ****ing regret studying law and getting into this shitty business. the work is thankless, low paying and the career prospects aren't as great as what everyone tells you since the skills aren't necessarily transferable (believe me i have tried). furthermore, it's a business full of cheats and you may find yourself hating the fact that your bosses are plain ****ing dishonest, lazy and not interested in your development. you're better off going somewhere else and learning something useful.

Take it as a blessing in disguise.

I would hesitate to take this as a norm in the industry. I work for a small firm and my experience has been the total opposite.

Every firm is different and it really depends on the boss you work for. I would suggest joining a different firm for a more varied perspective of the industry - you may well be surprised at how truly honest and honourable some bosses are (my boss is one of them, and i think that's why he chose to set up on his own - to practice by his own rules).

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyone finding trouble to secure a TC?

I just graduated and it seems most firms do not pay for Part A and B.

I kindda made the wrong choice to study law overseas

I would say that it is not the current industry practice to pay for Part A and Part B. Fees for Part B are generally reimbursed (as opposed to paid out upfront) should you be retained by the firm as an associate.

I have never regretted my decision to study law overseas, and while it is true that the job is thankless and low paying - many people who have fulfilling careers in this industry very rarely ever chose this profession because they wished to be martyrs or millionaires.

://.theonlinecitizen.com/2012/04/18/what-practice-has-taught-me/

The above is an article by Adrian Tan that i really connected with when i had doubts about my choice of profession.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I would hesitate to take this as a norm in the industry. I work for a small firm and my experience has been the total opposite.

Every firm is different and it really depends on the boss you work for. I would suggest joining a different firm for a more varied perspective of the industry - you may well be surprised at how truly honest and honourable some bosses are (my boss is one of them, and i think that's why he chose to set up on his own - to practice by his own rules).

I'm the poster you quoted... I actually agree with you on all points. Just speaking from my own experiences (obv). The only reason for my post is that I've seen both types but at the small firm level, I've seen more of the type of lawyers I was speaking of than those you were. Honest and honourable lawyers are rare.

It's unfortunate and I hate that this is the case, but it is what it is.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I would hesitate to take this as a norm in the industry. I work for a small firm and my experience has been the total opposite.

Every firm is different and it really depends on the boss you work for. I would suggest joining a different firm for a more varied perspective of the industry - you may well be surprised at how truly honest and honourable some bosses are (my boss is one of them, and i think that's why he chose to set up on his own - to practice by his own rules).

Furthermore, I don't know how long you've been practising but I wish you well. Going from a hardworking, honest mentor to one unethical, lazy, stupid mofo is one of the worst things that a junior can experience. Hope you never have to go through that.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Furthermore, I don't know how long you've been practising but I wish you well. Going from a hardworking, honest mentor to one unethical, lazy, stupid mofo is one of the worst things that a junior can experience. Hope you never have to go through that.

Unfortunately ... the first firm i ever joined and my first boss were both very much as you described. It really tested my faith and everything I ever believed in.

I was beyond lucky to meet a mentor who showed me that it doesn't have to be this way. He showed me a better way and the moment i was convinced that there were better people out there, i tendered. Sometimes, it really comes down to luck. I would probably share your views had i not met him.