Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Good on you guys, if legit, to try and level the field between the employer and employee market in the SG legal industry.

I think criticisms are natural and to be expected but please don’t be put off by the unmerited bashing that anonymity brings and keep up the good work.

Will you guys be conducting an open survey much like the one that a lawmeme insta did a while back? Or disclosing to some extent where you guys are getting your data from?

Otherwise it’s really just tweaking the UI of the website (web and phone) for me. First would be the words of the page on mobile, which becomes illegible with a white font and white background.

Cheers

Thanks for the feedback 😊

We understand the skepticism as we did pop up out of nowhere. However, we are confident that our positive intentions will be made clear with time.

We agree that there is an imbalance between employer and employee dynamics. We hope that creating a centralized platform to source jobs and industry information may help give lawyers some more bargaining power across the board.

Currently, we are being careful to not directly solicit lawyers to breach confidentiality arrangements with their employers. A general survey is something we will definitely consider when we are confident we can gather a large enough sample size like the Instagram page.

For now, we are relying on publicly available information and the kind, voluntary submissions by lawyers to our email at [email protected], with any information or corrections they think will be helpful.

We also believe we have fixed the white font on white background issue as of last week. Please let us know if the issue persists.

Have a good Sunday ✌️ For readers, make sure to check out t.me/sglegaljobs

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Good on you guys, if legit, to try and level the field between the employer and employee market in the SG legal industry.

I think criticisms are natural and to be expected but please don’t be put off by the unmerited bashing that anonymity brings and keep up the good work.

Will you guys be conducting an open survey much like the one that a lawmeme insta did a while back? Or disclosing to some extent where you guys are getting your data from?

Otherwise it’s really just tweaking the UI of the website (web and phone) for me. First would be the words of the page on mobile, which becomes illegible with a white font and white background.

Cheers

Thanks for the feedback 😊

We understand the skepticism as we did pop up out of nowhere. However, we are confident that our positive intentions will be made clear with time.

We agree that there is an imbalance between employer and employee dynamics. We hope that creating a centralized platform to source jobs and industry information may help give lawyers some more bargaining power across the board.

Currently, we are being careful to not directly solicit lawyers to breach confidentiality arrangements with their employers. A general survey is something we will definitely consider when we are confident we can gather a large enough sample size like the Instagram page.

For now, we are relying on publicly available information and the kind, voluntary submissions by lawyers to our email at sglegaljobs(at)gmail.com, with any information or corrections they think will be helpful.

We also believe we have fixed the white font on white background issue as of last week. Please let us know if the issue persists.

Have a good Sunday ✌️ For readers, make sure to check out t.me/sglegaljobs

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Good on you guys, if legit, to try and level the field between the employer and employee market in the SG legal industry.

I think criticisms are natural and to be expected but please don’t be put off by the unmerited bashing that anonymity brings and keep up the good work.

Will you guys be conducting an open survey much like the one that a lawmeme insta did a while back? Or disclosing to some extent where you guys are getting your data from?

Otherwise it’s really just tweaking the UI of the website (web and phone) for me. First would be the words of the page on mobile, which becomes illegible with a white font and white background.

Cheers

Thanks for the feedback 😊

We understand the skepticism as we did pop up out of nowhere. However, we are confident that our positive intentions will be made clear with time.

We agree that there is an imbalance between employer and employee dynamics. We hope that creating a centralized platform to source jobs and industry information may help give lawyers some more bargaining power across the board.

Currently, we are being careful to not directly solicit lawyers to breach confidentiality arrangements with their employers. A general survey is something we will definitely consider when we are confident we can gather a large enough sample size.

For now, we are relying on publicly available information and the kind, voluntary submissions by lawyers to our email with any information or corrections they think will be helpful.

We also believe we have fixed the white font on white background issue as of last week. Please let us know if the issue persists.

Have a good Sunday ✌️ For readers, make sure to check out t.me/sglegaljobs

Malaysian law firm still paying NQ RM4k. Haiz

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thanks for the feedback 😊

We understand the skepticism as we did pop up out of nowhere. However, we are confident that our positive intentions will be made clear with time.

We agree that there is an imbalance between employer and employee dynamics. We hope that creating a centralized platform to source jobs and industry information may help give lawyers some more bargaining power across the board.

Currently, we are being careful to not directly solicit lawyers to breach confidentiality arrangements with their employers. A general survey is something we will definitely consider when we are confident we can gather a large enough sample size.

For now, we are relying on publicly available information and the kind, voluntary submissions by lawyers to our email with any information or corrections they think will be helpful.

We also believe we have fixed the white font on white background issue as of last week. Please let us know if the issue persists.

Have a good Sunday ✌️ For readers, make sure to check out t.me/sglegaljobs

Thanks for this good work. Hopefully, it has the outcome we are all looking for.

Especially for trainees, it is quite unfortunate to see them still making $2000. I think $2500 for one whole year will be absurd.

Firms can afford a thousand for each trainee to bump up across the board. You will know this will really not affect the firm's bottom line.

So it is just a real big F U to those newly entering the industry.

Then they wonder why no one stays around for long. Goodwill and first impressions are a real thing. Humans are reciprocal in nature.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thanks for this good work. Hopefully, it has the outcome we are all looking for.

Especially for trainees, it is quite unfortunate to see them still making $2000. I think $2500 for one whole year will be absurd.

Firms can afford a thousand for each trainee to bump up across the board. You will know this will really not affect the firm's bottom line.

So it is just a real big F U to those newly entering the industry.

Then they wonder why no one stays around for long. Goodwill and first impressions are a real thing. Humans are reciprocal in nature.

I don’t disagree with you. But to be honest, even if it is $2.5K for a year, I’m sure most would stay and get the practising certificate. And even if you whine for the whole year, when the money comes in, as a legal executive, and then as an associate, you’ll just stay on. So there’s that.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thanks for this good work. Hopefully, it has the outcome we are all looking for.

Especially for trainees, it is quite unfortunate to see them still making $2000. I think $2500 for one whole year will be absurd.

Firms can afford a thousand for each trainee to bump up across the board. You will know this will really not affect the firm's bottom line.

So it is just a real big F U to those newly entering the industry.

Then they wonder why no one stays around for long. Goodwill and first impressions are a real thing. Humans are reciprocal in nature.

This whole 1 year extended TC and pseudo-qualification (called to bar but not practising) is almost farcically comical. And agreed that it's a big F U to newly graduated aspirants to the legal profession. Throwing them to the mercies of the market, which we know will take every opportunity to squeeze every drop of blood from their trainees whom they view as mere units of labour.

Anyone who thinks this will be effectual in raising some nebulous conception of standards is exactly someone who I'd expect had ridden the gravy train in decades past.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This whole 1 year extended TC and pseudo-qualification (called to bar but not practising) is almost farcically comical. And agreed that it's a big F U to newly graduated aspirants to the legal profession. Throwing them to the mercies of the market, which we know will take every opportunity to squeeze every drop of blood from their trainees whom they view as mere units of labour.

Anyone who thinks this will be effectual in raising some nebulous conception of standards is exactly someone who I'd expect had ridden the gravy train in decades past.

It's funny how the SG legal profession regulators are trying to be more like the UK - by extending the TC period to 1 year (1.5 years for overseas grads) and implementing a rotation system

While the UK regulators are implementing the QWE system, thereby removing the need for the traditiknal rotation-based TC (paralegal experience counts toward the QWE 2 year-period now)

Oh the irony

anyone knows how much is rajah and tann trainees' sign on bonus and whether laterals are entitled to this bonus?

To the group working on the sglegaljobs website, just want to let yall know that you guys are doing an amazing job and the industry really needs it. It's understandable that you guys are keeping your affiliations secret considering the taboo-like nature of salary in the sg legal industry and (maybe) risk of reprisal.

A centralised platform for salary information helps balance the gap between employees and employers. There're things like Blind and levels.fyi for tech, and the UK and US legal industries also disclose this information more openly. GJ and hope yalls can continue expanding it.