Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You are deliberately ignoring the hefty cost of privately funding a recognised BDS, for which there are next to no scholarships if one doesn't take the MOHH bond.

If an OSU law degree is already exclusivist by nature of the high school and COL fees, an overseas dental degree is arguably even more exclusive and out of the reach for a majority of middle class background kids. Only upper middle class and above need apply, and these kids never needed the money in the first place with their family safety net.

People rich.

What type of people generally lasts in the legal industry? Like what type of personality do you need to have to make partner? As a law student, all I can think of is the abusive partner whom I interned for a year ago

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What type of people generally lasts in the legal industry? Like what type of personality do you need to have to make partner? As a law student, all I can think of is the abusive partner whom I interned for a year ago

You need to be rich. High ses.

we study law because we bobian no choice (some forced by parents to study, some study for the prestige, some have bad math skills). If I have exceptional math skills, I would have studied pure math and become a quant trader or researcher. I heard they work at least 3x less than junior associates and this comes with 3x of our paycheck. **** this exploitative industry. Seriously hope local law schools can cut law intake to 100 people like how med school control the number of students.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

we study law because we bobian no choice (some forced by parents to study, some study for the prestige, some have bad math skills). If I have exceptional math skills, I would have studied pure math and become a quant trader or researcher. I heard they work at least 3x less than junior associates and this comes with 3x of our paycheck. **** this exploitative industry. Seriously hope local law schools can cut law intake to 100 people like how med school control the number of students.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

we study law because we bobian no choice (some forced by parents to study, some study for the prestige, some have bad math skills). If I have exceptional math skills, I would have studied pure math and become a quant trader or researcher. I heard they work at least 3x less than junior associates and this comes with 3x of our paycheck. **** this exploitative industry. Seriously hope local law schools can cut law intake to 100 people like how med school control the number of students.

Med is not any better. Most local graduates end up as GP/family physician. Only around 10% are selected for speciality training.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What type of people generally lasts in the legal industry? Like what type of personality do you need to have to make partner? As a law student, all I can think of is the abusive partner whom I interned for a year ago

This is a good question. A lot of ambitious and intelligent people drop out of law because they just don't have the personality that it requires.

You need a very specific personality to thrive in law - basically people who think clinically and logically, are detail and process-oriented, and enjoy work that involves extensive document review, drafting, analysing fine details and nuances, and anticipating all the things that could go wrong and pro-actively working to reduce the risk of them occurring. In terms of MBTI, I find that a lot of lawyers tend to be INTJs (which is a personality type that is quite rare in the general population).

To become a partner, you need all of the above plus the ability to sell yourself, impress clients and generate business.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is a good question. A lot of ambitious and intelligent people drop out of law because they just don't have the personality that it requires.

You need a very specific personality to thrive in law - basically people who think clinically and logically, are detail and process-oriented, and enjoy work that involves extensive document review, drafting, analysing fine details and nuances, and anticipating all the things that could go wrong and pro-actively working to reduce the risk of them occurring. In terms of MBTI, I find that a lot of lawyers tend to be INTJs (which is a personality type that is quite rare in the general population).

To become a partner, you need all of the above plus the ability to sell yourself, impress clients and generate business.

Tbh I've found that you just need to know how to build connections and sell yourself (just like in most businesses). Usually you can't suck bad enough that your work standard actually matters.

I am a junior associate (1PQE) and I constantly get shouted and yelled at by another senior associate (4PQE). We work closely together and everytime she talks to me she puts on an extremely negative and frustrating front. I tend to get nervous talking and answering her as her pessimism would inevitably affect me. I understand from her point of view, she is frustrated as she needs to constantly check and review my work. I make many mistakes and I understand that my work is not up to standard. However, the workplace seems very toxic for me and I feel stiffled as I cannot do much to improve the situation - its becoming a never ending cycle. What should I do? Is that my fault since I am not meeting up to standards?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Tbh I've found that you just need to know how to build connections and sell yourself (just like in most businesses). Usually you can't suck bad enough that your work standard actually matters.

Honestly it depends on the market. If you’re targeting less-than-sophisticated clients, then sure the work standards can slip without much consequence. Connections will do.

If you’re targeting sophisticated clients, then I think the work standards just necessarily be high. You cannot be caught slipping. Trust is lost easily with these folks. The work standards must be kept high, on top of the standard relationship building stuff.