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Old 17-06-2023, 08:34 PM
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Heard AnG intends to bump their NQ to 8k from 2024 onwards. Anyone can confirm?

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Heard AnG intends to bump their NQ to 8k from 2024 onwards. Anyone can confirm?
can't confirm this. besides 8k for NQ is way too high and unrealistic

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Old 17-06-2023, 11:47 PM
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can't confirm this. besides 8k for NQ is way too high and unrealistic
I think 8k is pretty good. Hopefully they will move (to balance out opp cost for longer TC) and force the rest of the B4 / big firm pay benchmarks to move upwards.

Even if 8k for NQ is unrealistic, I think its pretty reasonable ask for 1PQE (i.e. 4 months after post-mass call NQ).

Doesn't benefit me, but always happy to see juniors getting better pay / better conditions. Just because we suffered doesn't mean they should.

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Old 18-06-2023, 12:34 AM
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Hello, I am the operator of SGLegalJobs, no need to fight over our credibility. Just take it for what it is.

Just know that we are trying our best to make the site and Telegram as reliable as possible and as value-adding as possible for lawyers in Singapore.

The stats are indeed somewhat speculative, but you will be familiar with the fact that no one in the industry has clear information to begin with. If you recall any conversation with your peers regarding industry salary, there will always be someone saying they heard one thing, and others saying they heard another thing - leading to no productive outcome.

It is also quite inconvenient for lawyers to have to scroll back hundreds of pages on this forum to find relevant information.

The goal of this website is to create a better ecosystem for lawyers to have a reliable source of job postings, updates and industry information.

We are open to constantly receiving feedback to improve. What you see now is not what you will see next year as we seek to better the service.

Then, if this is value-add enough for the community, and you find yourself coming back to our website and Telegram, we can hopefully make some income by selling job postings for counsel and private practice roles. I hope that clarifies our intentions and how we seek to be mutually beneficial.


We have recently updated our salary articles with the following information:

WongPartnership is said to receive 6.8k NQ, not 6.5k.
A&G is said to receive 7k from the start of August (before being called to the Bar).

You can always feel free to email [email protected] with further corrections. Have a great week ahead.
Minimally, you should be disclosing your affiliations, especially if you're affiliated to a recruiter or recruitment firm. This is for accountability purposes, for the same reasons that recruiters are supposed to display their EA reg number.

Based on your post, your intending to eventually monetize this web portal. In the meantime, are you scraping the job ads off the respective firms' and companies' webpages? Did these website operators consent to their content being scraped?
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Old 18-06-2023, 01:24 AM
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Minimally, you should be disclosing your affiliations, especially if you're affiliated to a recruiter or recruitment firm. This is for accountability purposes, for the same reasons that recruiters are supposed to display their EA reg number.

Based on your post, your intending to eventually monetize this web portal. In the meantime, are you scraping the job ads off the respective firms' and companies' webpages? Did these website operators consent to their content being scraped?
1. We are not affiliated to a recruiter or recruitment firms. We are lawyers/ex-lawyers who found that we could ourselves benefit from consolidated job listings + Telegram updates + salary information. We hope this set of services can be beneficial to the legal community at large.

2. We ensure to abide by the Robots Exclusion Protocol, which is the standard used by websites to prevent automated crawling of their sites.

Happy to answer any more questions 😊

More importantly, we'd like to hear from the legal community how our service could better help address their needs.

If you're curious, you can see how we send daily job updates to lawyers on Telegram here:

t.me/sglegaljobs
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Old 18-06-2023, 09:27 AM
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Heard AnG intends to bump their NQ to 8k from 2024 onwards. Anyone can confirm?
I heard the rest of the big 4 will also be bumping to similar figure, but not sure if overall this is even true

Seems too good to be true
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Old 18-06-2023, 10:32 AM
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1. We are not affiliated to a recruiter or recruitment firms. We are lawyers/ex-lawyers who found that we could ourselves benefit from consolidated job listings + Telegram updates + salary information. We hope this set of services can be beneficial to the legal community at large.

2. We ensure to abide by the Robots Exclusion Protocol, which is the standard used by websites to prevent automated crawling of their sites.

Happy to answer any more questions 😊

More importantly, we'd like to hear from the legal community how our service could better help address their needs.

If you're curious, you can see how we send daily job updates to lawyers on Telegram here:

t.me/sglegaljobs
Good on you guys, if legit, to try and level the field between the employer and employee market in the SG legal industry.

I think criticisms are natural and to be expected but please donít be put off by the unmerited bashing that anonymity brings and keep up the good work.

Will you guys be conducting an open survey much like the one that a lawmeme insta did a while back? Or disclosing to some extent where you guys are getting your data from?

Otherwise itís really just tweaking the UI of the website (web and phone) for me. First would be the words of the page on mobile, which becomes illegible with a white font and white background.

Cheers
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Old 18-06-2023, 11:59 AM
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Heard AnG intends to bump their NQ to 8k from 2024 onwards. Anyone can confirm?
They are only paying 7.5 for 1PQE. Where did you get your numbers from?
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Old 18-06-2023, 02:41 PM
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Good on you guys, if legit, to try and level the field between the employer and employee market in the SG legal industry.

I think criticisms are natural and to be expected but please donít be put off by the unmerited bashing that anonymity brings and keep up the good work.

Will you guys be conducting an open survey much like the one that a lawmeme insta did a while back? Or disclosing to some extent where you guys are getting your data from?

Otherwise itís really just tweaking the UI of the website (web and phone) for me. First would be the words of the page on mobile, which becomes illegible with a white font and white background.

Cheers
Thanks for the feedback 😊.

We understand the skepticism as we did pop up out of nowhere. However, we are confident that our positive intentions will be made clear with time.

We agree that there is an imbalance between employer and employee dynamics. We hope that creating a centralized platform to source jobs and industry information may help give lawyers some more bargaining power across the board.

Currently, we are being careful to not directly solicit lawyers to breach confidentiality arrangements with their employers. A general survey is something we will definitely consider when we are confident we can gather a large enough sample size like the Instagram page.

For now, we are relying on publicly available information and the kind, voluntary submissions by lawyers to our email at [email protected], with any information or corrections they think will be helpful.

We also believe we have fixed the white font on white background issue as of last week. Please let us know if the issue persists.

Have a good Sunday ✌️. For readers, make sure to check out t.me/sglegaljobs
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They are only paying 7.5 for 1PQE. Where did you get your numbers from?
I also don't know how people outside hear rumours like this before people inside are even aware


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