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Old 15-07-2022, 08:29 PM
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Thanks pal, speaking of H&PS and opps to shine here, is it only for tech roles? Like if youíre someone from the S&C side and in H&PS projects then you donít have that same opportunities or chances right?
Haha not true. The scope of CM in H&PS is bigger than other service groups actually

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Whatís the difference between the people from functional consulting and someone from industry consulting under S&C? What do they do and what are the tasks under their care? Currently a consulting senior analyst and honestly the projects Iím in the work Iím doing arenít even near consulting. Donít understand why tech is involved and we also need to know the test scripts and try out the testing. Is this cos itís aligned to functional consulting? Then what do industry consulting people do then? So the management consulting in Accenture is not like those management consulting in MBB or tier 3? Is big 4 mgmt consulting same as acn too?

If you are doing projects that directly impacts "growth", "revenue" "p&l" chances are you could be doing similar projects as MBB and certain Big 4 strategy arms

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This priority portion is not true. BA pods analysts can be MCs as well if they are aligned to a particular service group eg banking, capital markets etc.
Yea true but given they are aligned to a particular service group.

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Haha not true. The scope of CM in H&PS is bigger than other service groups actually
Really? Care to share more? Like typically what roles and why are the scope bigger tho? I mean the projects tend to have way more developers and BAs, so thought they have a bigger scope and more opportunities to shine and be promoted.
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If you are doing projects that directly impacts "growth", "revenue" "p&l" chances are you could be doing similar projects as MBB and certain Big 4 strategy arms
How do we tell which kind of projects fits the above mentioned? Do you have any recommendations on the kind words projects and clients?


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Really? Care to share more? Like typically what roles and why are the scope bigger tho? I mean the projects tend to have way more developers and BAs, so thought they have a bigger scope and more opportunities to shine and be promoted.
If you were to notice, CM is not a compulsory thing in all projects. Generally only bigger projects with more budget will have CM.

You should know which service groups usually have the bigger projects so I shall not dwell so much into it.

The whole point of CM is to guide the users through the transition to a new system. With more budget allocated, you have more resources dedicated to create content to prepare the users through change. This can be in the form of workshops, videos and even newsletters.

In addition, we also do change impact assessment to identify the benefits and impact that you are bringing to an organisation. Even after go live, there will still be change management efforts on the ground to gauge the satisfaction levels and to measure the improvements to a business.
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Old 15-07-2022, 11:27 PM
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Just to clear the misconception some people haveÖI myself am a management consultant under S&C in ACN. I joined 3 years ago as a consulting development analyst and started off in my first few projects as change practitioner, I do have one project that extended me with a business analyst role after Iím done with the change mgmt aspect. I do have joined projects holding business strategy analyst role as well. So in short, consulting isnít just change management, it will be really dumb to think just that.
More so of your interest, what skills you have, there many who wants to do consulting but arenít recruited or either leave halfway too.
Would you share whatís your deliverable as a business strategy analyst?
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Old 16-07-2022, 12:12 AM
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Yea man, when I asked for CM pod they were very cautious to tell me to keep an open mind hahaha guess it's cause really limited spots. From what I know, each project usually the CM team is already quite small, so naturally! Also Im not too sure on this but I think HR can highlight your profile to projects you prefer also but at the end of the day it's up to the team leads if they think you're suitable. Poor HR always kenna hate
Yes thatís true, but if youíre interested can try to switch around when youíre still an analyst, because once you move on to higher levels itís almost impossible for you to jump to another function. Yes, projects youíll realise tend to have at lesser consulting people, many are from tech side. Technically they donít need that many consulting people in a project (this varies depending on the type of project too), there are in fact certain projects with way more consulting people.

Iím not too sure if itís the same for all but at least for myself and another analyst, we actually had interviews with the managing director of S&C or rather heís the pod lead for change management. I believe heís the one who have the biggest and final stamp of approval for your offer for a consulting analyst position.
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Lol when you use IBM as an example, you lost all credibility dimwit
Lmao dumb, how is acn even on the same level comparable to FAANG. Instead of calling yourselves technology people, call yourself implementation worker lah. Use the right term for the right job. If youíre that good in tech, why didnít end up in FAANG lol, cos not qualified lo, simple as that. So donít be so proud, head in the clouds when youíre nothing at all in the tech world. Suck.
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Actually do you actually like doing change management or because you think it's 'consulting'. Honestly I would not worry so much about the pods or titles but focus on progressing up the levels
we donít think itís consulting, itís a part of T&O which is consulting and part of S&C. Again as many have said, change mgmt is just one tiny part of consulting. Thereís really people who enjoy doing change management projects, thereís also some who doesnít and thatís when they try on different roles in projects to determine which type of work do they enjoy. But if youíre looking to go on to MBB or consulting for a long term career, I would say holding the consulting role itself gives you a better advantage than holding a BA or tech role.

Yes and youíre right, itís definitely good to focus on progressing up the level. No one here is saying which pod or which role is better than the other, but I guess why both sides are unhappy is that well indeed consulting is more competitive to get into than tech roles. As a mc myself, I do look up to the tech analysts and tech consultants, at the end of the day, itís more on the what your own preference is.
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