Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi! SLs spoke to me recently and told me they want to offer me SH(Internal) but he hasn’t like confirmed which area because they need to speak to others first. But I get the rough sensing that I’ll be working closely with my new HOD whom I hate working with. If I were to take up SH(Internal), must I stay in the school for another 2 years? Cos I’ve intention to leave after next year.

Some context, I’m GEO3, got promoted in 2021. So I thought I’m too “immature” to be promoted.

the human factor matters a lot...and as a very new UNOFFICIAL head, your voice will end up bring smaller than other KPs...unofficial also means no promises of progression

suggest u look elsewhere since already leaving

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi! SLs spoke to me recently and told me they want to offer me SH(Internal) but he hasn’t like confirmed which area because they need to speak to others first. But I get the rough sensing that I’ll be working closely with my new HOD whom I hate working with. If I were to take up SH(Internal), must I stay in the school for another 2 years? Cos I’ve intention to leave after next year.

Some context, I’m GEO3, got promoted in 2021. So I thought I’m too “immature” to be promoted.

Internal appointment doesn't require you to stay for 2 years. Anyway, if you asked me 5 years ago I'd advise NEVER to take up an internal appointment, because it is just pure, thankless suffering.. especially at GEO3. Drawing entry-level pay to do half of a KP's job.. wtf?

But nowadays it seems like internal appointments are the new trend and some SLs seem to have grown thick enough skulls to make it a requirement to serve some years in the internal appointment before even considering putting you up for interview. So maybe cannot siam already.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If it slows down promotion, then it has adverse effects. Whether it is formally categorised as 'adverse grade' or not.

Of course we know that this is just one of MOE's many efforts to slow down the rate of promotion of EOs. As if we weren't already one of the slowest in the whole public service. If any EO doubts this, apply for a lateral transfer to another public service agency and you'll see how far behind your same-exp/same-age peers you are.

Depends. where you start matters. At a 40 year old HOT GEO5 at higher end, no internal appt whatsoever and my salary i know cuz i saw in black and white same as a deputy director in a ministry

title/scope of responsibility vs pay scale diff.

IS ranking over? I adjust my yearly behavoir according to ranking so I need to know..

Time to let loose and show ur true colours!!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yup, honestly anything is possible as long as you are able to justify the budget/purchase.

We don't have enough information to judge in this case since it sounds like he was operating on a very tight timeline (needing to order in advance before confirmation of numbers from parents letters causing a mismatch in qty). Why the tight timeline? Is it poor planning on his part? Also op stated there were 'many complaints from SMC' which means that this may not be an isolated incident.

Anyway most likely it will be a C-, because to give D the officer needs to have been counselled and given opportunity to improve. C- still not considered that adverse.

Given a D as a JC teacher but is ok. decided to leave for the private sector. but before leaving decided to sleep and cum inside my 18 year old student who is in love with me for several months.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi! SLs spoke to me recently and told me they want to offer me SH(Internal) but he hasn’t like confirmed which area because they need to speak to others first. But I get the rough sensing that I’ll be working closely with my new HOD whom I hate working with. If I were to take up SH(Internal), must I stay in the school for another 2 years? Cos I’ve intention to leave after next year.

Some context, I’m GEO3, got promoted in 2021. So I thought I’m too “immature” to be promoted.

No obligation to stay as internal KP. If you hate working with the HOD, it's not a great role to be in.

One thought: it'd probably be easier (but not compulsory) to secure a KP role during open posting with an internal appointment under your belt. If you think you can hang on till you get GEO4, that might be worth considering? Or can think about trying for a HQ role.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

No obligation to stay as internal KP. If you hate working with the HOD, it's not a great role to be in.

One thought: it'd probably be easier (but not compulsory) to secure a KP role during open posting with an internal appointment under your belt. If you think you can hang on till you get GEO4, that might be worth considering? Or can think about trying for a HQ role.

Yeah you're right. He talks down to me as though I'm an idiot and he doesn't protect his people so I really don't want to work for him and clear his mess.

I don't think I can tank another year in this school so that's why I wanted to apply posting next year. I also rejected taking up another leadership role simply because I don't want to be in leadership track, I just want to be a regular teacher doing things I like, but then now want to offer SH (internal).

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yeah you're right. He talks down to me as though I'm an idiot and he doesn't protect his people so I really don't want to work for him and clear his mess.

I don't think I can tank another year in this school so that's why I wanted to apply posting next year. I also rejected taking up another leadership role simply because I don't want to be in leadership track, I just want to be a regular teacher doing things I like, but then now want to offer SH (internal).

i think u made a smart decision. its good that u assessed the people and environment around u well

if u already know what u want, go for it!

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