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Old 23-08-2023, 06:13 PM
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Hi. Would like to check what’s the salary jump from GEO 4 to 5 like? Say I’m drawing 7.7k now. Thanks!
Sorry correction. Drawing 6.7K.

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teacher good?

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Sorry correction. Drawing 6.7K.
how many years have u been a geo4?

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how many years have u been a geo4?
Thanks for replying. Approx 5 years.
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Sorry correction. Drawing 6.7K.
About 7.4k
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About 7.4k
Sorry, 7.2k. Not 7.4k
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Old 24-08-2023, 01:21 PM
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A young star performer in my school has just called it quits. I hope every teacher here can learn a thing or two from what i am about to share

I have a colleague who is well liked by management because he is very efficient in completing tasks. Never says no to extra work and classes assigned. This has been going on for two years. He held on thinking it is a ticket to leadership track. But management kept giving work until he cracked. Was on MC and management took it that he has learnt to skive. He was all gloomy and burnout when he came back so his R.O said he has turned into a negative person and called him in for showdown talks

Word has it that he was unhappy with the amount of work assigned and he did sound out that he has too many things on his plate. Management then put a label on him as a potential ticking time bomb. And other colleagues didnt want to be associated with him. He tendered his resignation today.

Never sell your soul to MOE. They never cared about you. So you have to take care of yourself
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A young star performer in my school has just called it quits. I hope every teacher here can learn a thing or two from what i am about to share

I have a colleague who is well liked by management because he is very efficient in completing tasks. Never says no to extra work and classes assigned. This has been going on for two years. He held on thinking it is a ticket to leadership track. But management kept giving work until he cracked. Was on MC and management took it that he has learnt to skive. He was all gloomy and burnout when he came back so his R.O said he has turned into a negative person and called him in for showdown talks

Word has it that he was unhappy with the amount of work assigned and he did sound out that he has too many things on his plate. Management then put a label on him as a potential ticking time bomb. And other colleagues didnt want to be associated with him. He tendered his resignation today.

Never sell your soul to MOE. They never cared about you. So you have to take care of yourself
It's useless to go the extra mile in order to portray yourself as a star performer, if you are not "pre-starred" by the system from the onset (scholars and/or benefitted from a big CEP bump very very early in your career).

This is what happens to farmers who go the extra mile: you just get more and more thankless, low-vis, low-profile work until you reach your hard limit and break. Then you quit. The end.

People who are pre-starred by the system are less likely to suffer the same fate. The tendency for them is to have a larger proportion of their total work being higher-profile, higher-visibility pieces. They will not be asked to take on extra class after extra class, or take on more menial, low-vis and thankless workpieces. They will take on atas projects instead so that their faster advancement can be justified.

If you want to teach, being a teacher is not too bad. But if you have lofty aspirations, MOE is really not the place for farmers to chase their dreams.
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It's useless to go the extra mile in order to portray yourself as a star performer, if you are not "pre-starred" by the system from the onset (scholars and/or benefitted from a big CEP bump very very early in your career).

This is what happens to farmers who go the extra mile: you just get more and more thankless, low-vis, low-profile work until you reach your hard limit and break. Then you quit. The end.

People who are pre-starred by the system are less likely to suffer the same fate. The tendency for them is to have a larger proportion of their total work being higher-profile, higher-visibility pieces. They will not be asked to take on extra class after extra class, or take on more menial, low-vis and thankless workpieces. They will take on atas projects instead so that their faster advancement can be justified.

If you want to teach, being a teacher is not too bad. But if you have lofty aspirations, MOE is really not the place for farmers to chase their dreams.
I don't get why teachers even aim for management. I have yet to come across a SL who is happy. They all seem miserable. I'd rather earn 6k per month while having decent work life balance than earn 8-10k and not being happy. I have also seen cases of young teachers being pushed into leadership roles too early and falling out because of burnout. Leadership track is not for everybody.


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If teaching is your desired calling, go ahead after all it does provide you with the opportunities which also comes with decent salary and bonuses. However, if you are think that you are able to handle stress and enjoy a competitive driven environment then this place may not be suitable unless you are able to secure at least a MOE merit scholarship. Better to allow another person who has the passion to teach than you occupying the seat.


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