Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yeah you're right. He talks down to me as though I'm an idiot and he doesn't protect his people so I really don't want to work for him and clear his mess.

I don't think I can tank another year in this school so that's why I wanted to apply posting next year. I also rejected taking up another leadership role simply because I don't want to be in leadership track, I just want to be a regular teacher doing things I like, but then now want to offer SH (internal).

If they’re offering you the internal role and you got GEO3 in 2021, likely that you can be promoted to GEO4 in April. So don’t burn bridges until you get GEO4 cause it opens up more options for you. So advice is to take up the offer first before applying for OPE next year. Though it will not look good for you to apply out as other SLs will question why you’re giving up the opportunity to be confirmed.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If they’re offering you the internal role and you got GEO3 in 2021, likely that you can be promoted to GEO4 in April. So don’t burn bridges until you get GEO4 cause it opens up more options for you. So advice is to take up the offer first before applying for OPE next year. Though it will not look good for you to apply out as other SLs will question why you’re giving up the opportunity to be confirmed.

Many assumptions here that may not hold true everywhere. I was given LH internal as a fresh GEO3 and slogged for 3 years before I decided to apply out. Finally promoted to GEO4 in my second posting after a total of 4.5 years as a GEO3, 3 of which I spent getting A/B grades as an internal LH.

I don't feel like my first school had much intention to push me up, they were just trying to fill gaps and offload my HOD a bit.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yeah you're right. He talks down to me as though I'm an idiot and he doesn't protect his people so I really don't want to work for him and clear his mess.

I don't think I can tank another year in this school so that's why I wanted to apply posting next year. I also rejected taking up another leadership role simply because I don't want to be in leadership track, I just want to be a regular teacher doing things I like, but then now want to offer SH (internal).

Consider the teaching track? You spend a lot of time not only teaching students but also teaching and mentoring fellow teachers. You may want to do a stint in AST at some point, preferably to a branch that works closely with teacher leaders, to see if that sort of path may be something to aspire towards.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Depends. where you start matters. At a 40 year old HOT GEO5 at higher end, no internal appt whatsoever and my salary i know cuz i saw in black and white same as a deputy director in a ministry

title/scope of responsibility vs pay scale diff.

You must be comparing with a very young MX11/MX11a DD. Or a DD in an agency that practices title inflation, like MTI.

You want to compare, compare it with a 40 yo go-getter with the same 15+ year runway as you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Consider the teaching track? You spend a lot of time not only teaching students but also teaching and mentoring fellow teachers. You may want to do a stint in AST at some point, preferably to a branch that works closely with teacher leaders, to see if that sort of path may be something to aspire towards.

I stated my preference to be a ST but they said oh you're still young. But I have no intentions of becoming a KP.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Many assumptions here that may not hold true everywhere. I was given LH internal as a fresh GEO3 and slogged for 3 years before I decided to apply out. Finally promoted to GEO4 in my second posting after a total of 4.5 years as a GEO3, 3 of which I spent getting A/B grades as an internal LH.

I don't feel like my first school had much intention to push me up, they were just trying to fill gaps and offload my HOD a bit.

Was this what you wanted? Or like they 'forced' you to it?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If they’re offering you the internal role and you got GEO3 in 2021, likely that you can be promoted to GEO4 in April. So don’t burn bridges until you get GEO4 cause it opens up more options for you. So advice is to take up the offer first before applying for OPE next year. Though it will not look good for you to apply out as other SLs will question why you’re giving up the opportunity to be confirmed.

I know but I feel I'm too young in service to be promoted. And I really have intentions of applying for OPE next year. But not sure if I should tell them when I'm rejecting this position lol. I'm not looking to climb or be in a KP position. I just want to teach.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I stated my preference to be a ST but they said oh you're still young. But I have no intentions of becoming a KP.

You could be in a tricky predicament as if you outright reject the internal appointment, your career trajectory could change in such a way that your progression rate may be limited.

In simple terms, the panel could see it as "no aspiration" and your CEP (or whatever it has evolved into now) may be left alone to rot.

Open posting to AST maybe? Haha

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I know but I feel I'm too young in service to be promoted. And I really have intentions of applying for OPE next year. But not sure if I should tell them when I'm rejecting this position lol. I'm not looking to climb or be in a KP position. I just want to teach.

Are you a scholar?

If yes, there is no such thing as too young to promote

If no, refer to the age norms/yoe info shared earlier, for promotion

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Are you a scholar?

If yes, there is no such thing as too young to promote

If no, refer to the age norms/yoe info shared earlier, for promotion

How fast are we talking about? Like SAFOS scholarship speed?