MAS for Mid Career Professionals

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Really arh? Do what? Industry or u found financial independence can retire early!

Must be the 13 million dollar toto winner....

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Gona run for ge!

Punny!

10char

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Must be the 13 million dollar toto winner....

If 13 mil winner tender immediate effect liao loh. At most sign undertaking to not join any FI in the next 3 months..then last day drive lambo vroom vroom at the carpark..

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If 13 mil winner tender immediate effect liao loh. At most sign undertaking to not join any FI in the next 3 months..then last day drive lambo vroom vroom at the carpark..

No, if 13mil winner just pay back 3 months in lieu of notice to purchase your freedom with immediate effect hahaha

Good to dream every now and then!

Just wondering:

Do TLs get paid extra vis a vis a rank and file officer in the same grade?

And how difficult can it be to get good increments within the DD grades?

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Just wondering:

Do TLs get paid extra vis a vis a rank and file officer in the same grade?

And how difficult can it be to get good increments within the DD grades?

1. Yes. Higher appointment. But question is can you afford the extra time commitment for extra responsibilities in exchange for the extra pay which may or may not be proportionate to the extra hours.

2. It depends. If you comparing against associate or AD, % change will not be as much since salary already higher. If say that year you got some good projects or other positive in your favour, who knows?

I dare say workload for TL differ according to dept, best you observe those in your dept then see whether its something you wanna aim for !

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Seem like two posters mention sinking ship. Well we dunno why they said that and I certainly don’t agree w sinking ship either, but comment has to be seen in context of the rest of post, which is not totally invalid. Talk to more people beyond your immediate groups and you will find different views; not everything is rosy for everyone in the same org, it is too simplistic to say all unhappy people are bad apples and should be forced out one way or other so the status quo we are used to can prevail.

My hope for MAS is that some day in the future, the better ones can improve whatever is lacking in corporate culture: psyche safety is one, and I see reluctance to onboard different views in the face of a more dominant opinion as another.

1, Co-create spaces where there can be candid, constructive dialogue between higher ups and staff, so any aggrieved employees can feel safe to be heard in real life. 2, Don’t be too quick to finger others as the ones who need change. Be willing to recognise your own blind spots and where you have contributed to the root of a wrong situation. 3, Top down, defensive approaches are not the way to go as they do nothing to build mutual respect.

Yes, probably this is no different from what other offices are like but I expected way far more of MAS. When the above utopian wishlist has materialised, it will naturally follow that people find less need to come to a forum to air views they can’t do so in the office.

Yeap applaud your comment. Not all who leave are bad eggs. I have seen very good ones leave, and they move onto to places like GovTech, top FIs and even Google. If they are such bad eggs as the poster insinuate, then surely these companies would think twice about hiring them?

On the contrary, what i hear from them when they leave, is due to really bad egg bosses, and bad egg colleagues, who seem be here forever

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Yeap applaud your comment. Not all who leave are bad eggs. I have seen very good ones leave, and they move onto to places like GovTech, top FIs and even Google. If they are such bad eggs as the poster insinuate, then surely these companies would think twice about hiring them?

On the contrary, what i hear from them when they leave, is due to really bad egg bosses, and bad egg colleagues, who seem be here forever

Most times good ones leave... some of those left behind are those who are toxic, some are too free, gossiping and talking behind people's back, even at TL level. Some middle mgt are really not up to leadership qualities sadly.

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Most times good ones leave... some of those left behind are those who are toxic, some are too free, gossiping and talking behind people's back, even at TL level. Some middle mgt are really not up to leadership qualities sadly.

This type of feedback, maybe can only wait for champions with enough credibility to bulldoze through changes needed. Say on forum, those who unwilling to listen will say anonymous and no accountability to verify further who you mean. Say in person at work, if you small fry may jeopardise your career path, so few will dare to take the risk.

Honestly there are good chaps with leadership qualities in middle management. Team leaders or even division heads who are willing to help their guys out with unglamorous work that senior management or leadership will never know about; who are willing to stick their neck out for their team member(s) when it doesn’t benefit their promotion. But such people prefer to keep low profile and serve quietly, not the rah rah type, so less noticed.

Anyone knows if the markets and infrastructure division is a good place to work? Is the workload crazy?