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Old 01-06-2018, 10:01 AM
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I think you misunderstand.

When I took up the scholarship, my family was having financial difficulties and I didn't really have any other means of ensuring I could go to university. At that point in time, the rational thing for me to do (without putting a burden on my family) was to ensure that I could go to university by taking up the scholarship. However, after NS and a few years in University, things have started looking up and I have also saved enough of my own money (through tutoring, working, around 20-25 hours a week on top of school etc.) to be able to break the bond on my own with a small loan if need be. Right now I am merely contemplating the opportunity cost of staying in SIA, where my earning potential may be limited my false ceilings etc. and came to the forum to get an idea of what I can expect. I am in no hurry or rush to break the bond, but rather am just asking to explore and find out more about potential paths I may take. Sorry if that may have seemed offensive or as though I am depriving someone else of an opportunity.

Also I'd just like to say that at the point in time when I applied for the scholarship, I was very taken by the prospect of working in SIA and being at the forefront of one of the premier airlines in the world, but after having gone in and seen the operations in SIA, the lack of challenging work, hearing about slow progression and the very political office place, I am not too sure if this is the right fit for me anymore.

Ultimately you're still entitled to your own opinion of me, but I just wanted to clarify that sometimes being able to get a scholarship and wanting to break your bond doesn't necessarily mean that I have a choice and planned for this to happen.

That being said, hope someone can shed some light for me about all of this because I really am quite lost as to how to move forward from here. Any thoughts about the progression, potential avenues to leave out of etc. would be of great help!

Thanks guys
I do agreed with the OP that you should finish the bond and not break it. The moment that you took up a scholarship (whether is financial difficulties or whatsoever), you are in deed already deprived another person the chance of getting one. I dont think the reason of saving up or limited earning ceiling should/or is the reason for you to break.

End of the day, the truth is everyone just need a helper or booster in life for a good start. and since you already took on this scholarship, you should just give back and leave after you finished the bond. There are many people in the society that really need the scholarship and a stable job.

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I do agreed with the OP that you should finish the bond and not break it. The moment that you took up a scholarship (whether is financial difficulties or whatsoever), you are in deed already deprived another person the chance of getting one. I dont think the reason of saving up or limited earning ceiling should/or is the reason for you to break.

End of the day, the truth is everyone just need a helper or booster in life for a good start. and since you already took on this scholarship, you should just give back and leave after you finished the bond. There are many people in the society that really need the scholarship and a stable job.
If u are alr not interested in serving, then breaking bond is a better idea! The liquidated damages can pay for other scholars.

Rather than u serve half heartedly, must as well do your organisation a service by leaving early and your monetary compensation will be helpful to them.

Also do yourself a favour, since u might want to explore the outside when you are younger.

So Definitely win win situation.
You get to explore a few years earlier.
The organisation has one less interested employee. Organisation gets more $$$ to recruit interested employee or scholars.


If enough scholars leave early, then perhaps it is the problem of selection. And selection comittee need to review their processes.

Traditional view say serve till you finish bond. But a truly loyal employee knows that early departure may be good for both employer and himself.

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Old 04-06-2018, 07:34 AM
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Hi,
I'm currently MX12 drawing 4.7k. Any prospect of going to MX11 next year with ~5 yrs of CS exp? 2nd upper no NS

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Old 04-06-2018, 12:18 PM
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Just joined a ministry and noticed in the Pay advice there is "Bar 1", "Bar 2"..."Bar 5". May I know what do these mean? As of now, no data in the fields..
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Received a letter of offer from a statutory board.

The pay grade state "Grade 5"

how come this is different from the previous MX scheme?

anyone can share the new progression scheme. thanks
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I just joined CS in jan this year. Is it likely I'll get a C as my default grade for appraisal? Or will I be assessed according to my 9 mths of work (since appraisal is done in sep)
According to your work but if you just did your job well, it will be a C. If you did extras...e.g. committee work or carried out some value adding project, you may even get B. Don't buy the standard C in the first year BS. B grade in the first year do happen but only to those who stand out.
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Received a letter of offer from a statutory board.

The pay grade state "Grade 5"

how come this is different from the previous MX scheme?

anyone can share the new progression scheme. thanks
Most stat boards have their own salary scheme, so this is technically not new.
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I recently jumped from stat board A -> ministry B (different ministry from my previous SB). As I made the jump before PB season, Ministry B's HR informed me that my performance bonus would be carried over and paid out by Ministry B on completion of my 1st year contract.

However I recently had 2nd thoughts on policy work and am thinking of going back to my original sb, stat board A. Pay is also a factor as stat board A has much better benefits and leave scheme.

Could I ask if would stat board A be paying my PB, or would Ministry B be paying it out to me? Or will I forfeit my PB altogether since technically I didn't complete the 1st year contract?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-06-2018, 05:50 AM
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I think you misunderstand.

When I took up the scholarship, my family was having financial difficulties and I didn't really have any other means of ensuring I could go to university. At that point in time, the rational thing for me to do (without putting a burden on my family) was to ensure that I could go to university by taking up the scholarship. However, after NS and a few years in University, things have started looking up and I have also saved enough of my own money (through tutoring, working, around 20-25 hours a week on top of school etc.) to be able to break the bond on my own with a small loan if need be. Right now I am merely contemplating the opportunity cost of staying in SIA, where my earning potential may be limited my false ceilings etc. and came to the forum to get an idea of what I can expect. I am in no hurry or rush to break the bond, but rather am just asking to explore and find out more about potential paths I may take. Sorry if that may have seemed offensive or as though I am depriving someone else of an opportunity.

Also I'd just like to say that at the point in time when I applied for the scholarship, I was very taken by the prospect of working in SIA and being at the forefront of one of the premier airlines in the world, but after having gone in and seen the operations in SIA, the lack of challenging work, hearing about slow progression and the very political office place, I am not too sure if this is the right fit for me anymore.

Ultimately you're still entitled to your own opinion of me, but I just wanted to clarify that sometimes being able to get a scholarship and wanting to break your bond doesn't necessarily mean that I have a choice and planned for this to happen.

That being said, hope someone can shed some light for me about all of this because I really am quite lost as to how to move forward from here. Any thoughts about the progression, potential avenues to leave out of etc. would be of great help!

Thanks guys
Please do not listen to these people. Its your life. Break the bond. You already have reasons why you would be miserable working for SIA already. Don't waste the prime years of your life just because some salty forum poster thinks you stole someone elses spot and that you should do the 'right' thing. Again, its your life, screw them. Not sure why they would think you are depriving someone else of the spot. Once you pay back the money, they essentially have the funds to offer another person a scholarship.


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Hi, can i ask what is the rough starting pay for NUS 2nd upper with NS?
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