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Old 15-01-2021, 10:56 PM
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is statboard pay similar throughout all agencies?
no. some similar but not all the same.

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Old 16-01-2021, 12:54 AM
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Wow!

I remember they told me its the “same” benefits as perm staff, but its true about being at the mercy of the hirer... not that you will “slack” because you are perm vs contract but I suppose the mental stress is there :/
listen to the HR. it will be the same even for bonus if you are a direct contract tagged to a perm HC.
anyway, GT is not difficult to get it.

and no such thing abour the phd, masters and such

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Old 16-01-2021, 03:09 AM
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in general, what is the average number of months of bonus in LTA? thank you for any helpful replies!

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Old 16-01-2021, 03:21 AM
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if offered a certain package can negotiate for more? or not allowed to and offer would be rescinded?
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Old 16-01-2021, 10:23 AM
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Hi will like to have some advice if i should take up an offer in one of the ministry.

I applied for a civil service role 7 months ago, which they set an interview 3 months later. Till now i have yet to receive or sign the contract but they have notified me I am finally able to go down next week. I am currently working in a Big 4 advisory for 1.5 years and am up for promotion and a 30% pay increment in July (2nd year associate to 1st year senior). The ministry postion title is the same and 10% lesser than what i will receive if i stay on and it's on a 2 year contract (when i applied they stated permanent)

Work wise is totally different and I dont mind trying something new. I do not see myself staying on in Big 4 for the long term or this particular industry i'm in, but should i wait till july or another 6 months? Which tbh i not sure if i will be enjoying and able to get another offer easily again.

Career progression, stress level , work life balance not sure if its better. Of course if the hiring process didnt take so long, i would have taken the job, but now that im closer to the promotion and increment, the benefits to take the offer now decreases.
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Old 16-01-2021, 12:07 PM
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What’s the total months annual for HDB?
15.5mths?
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Hi will like to have some advice if i should take up an offer in one of the ministry.

I applied for a civil service role 7 months ago, which they set an interview 3 months later. Till now i have yet to receive or sign the contract but they have notified me I am finally able to go down next week. I am currently working in a Big 4 advisory for 1.5 years and am up for promotion and a 30% pay increment in July (2nd year associate to 1st year senior). The ministry postion title is the same and 10% lesser than what i will receive if i stay on and it's on a 2 year contract (when i applied they stated permanent)

Work wise is totally different and I dont mind trying something new. I do not see myself staying on in Big 4 for the long term or this particular industry i'm in, but should i wait till july or another 6 months? Which tbh i not sure if i will be enjoying and able to get another offer easily again.

Career progression, stress level , work life balance not sure if its better. Of course if the hiring process didnt take so long, i would have taken the job, but now that im closer to the promotion and increment, the benefits to take the offer now decreases.
The ministry postion title is the same and 10% lesser than what i will receive if i stay on and it's on a 2 year contract : Are you referring to just the monthly or annual package (including bonus)? How much have you been offered by the ministry? We can advise better if you can provide more information information.
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Hi will like to have some advice if i should take up an offer in one of the ministry.

I applied for a civil service role 7 months ago, which they set an interview 3 months later. Till now i have yet to receive or sign the contract but they have notified me I am finally able to go down next week. I am currently working in a Big 4 advisory for 1.5 years and am up for promotion and a 30% pay increment in July (2nd year associate to 1st year senior). The ministry postion title is the same and 10% lesser than what i will receive if i stay on and it's on a 2 year contract (when i applied they stated permanent)

Work wise is totally different and I dont mind trying something new. I do not see myself staying on in Big 4 for the long term or this particular industry i'm in, but should i wait till july or another 6 months? Which tbh i not sure if i will be enjoying and able to get another offer easily again.

Career progression, stress level , work life balance not sure if its better. Of course if the hiring process didnt take so long, i would have taken the job, but now that im closer to the promotion and increment, the benefits to take the offer now decreases.
From what I'm seeing, I recommend you to just change jobs. You said it yourself that you don't see yourself working in big 4 and this industry long term, so that itself is the biggest reason why you should move now. Always think long term. That 30% increase? After that what is your next goal? You will remain stuck at that job or industry because of reasons you want to come up with to justify staying. Maybe after July you will start saying 'oh there is bonus in a few months, maybe i should wait awhile more'. You will never move on if you're not committed to your decision to leave. Remember this - think long term, is that 10% lesser worth it in the long term?
Just my two cents
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Hi will like to have some advice if i should take up an offer in one of the ministry.

I applied for a civil service role 7 months ago, which they set an interview 3 months later. Till now i have yet to receive or sign the contract but they have notified me I am finally able to go down next week. I am currently working in a Big 4 advisory for 1.5 years and am up for promotion and a 30% pay increment in July (2nd year associate to 1st year senior). The ministry postion title is the same and 10% lesser than what i will receive if i stay on and it's on a 2 year contract (when i applied they stated permanent)

Work wise is totally different and I dont mind trying something new. I do not see myself staying on in Big 4 for the long term or this particular industry i'm in, but should i wait till july or another 6 months? Which tbh i not sure if i will be enjoying and able to get another offer easily again.

Career progression, stress level , work life balance not sure if its better. Of course if the hiring process didnt take so long, i would have taken the job, but now that im closer to the promotion and increment, the benefits to take the offer now decreases.
After reading your post, the answer is very evident. You mentioned yourself that you do not see yourself staying on in the Big 4 or in this particular industry, so in the long term, you WILL leave. Why do you want to stay on just for the 30% increase and find yourself leaving soon? The worst thing is you will probably stay on, and then find excuses and reasons to delay leaving the company, such as 'oh bonus is coming in a few months, let's wait till then' . By then, your boss will give you a new job and you will find another reason to maybe stay again, even though deep down you wanna leave.

Main point is to always think LONG TERM. Where do you see yourself in the long term. This is only provided that your civil service role is a job that you are not having 2nd thoughts about and you see yourself enjoying more than big 4 (in terms of the work, not the pay).

just my 2cents, because I have experienced similar situation before.
-H
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'finally able to go down next week...' for contract signing or for final interview?

if i am in your shoes, i think i will stay on in my current job.

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Hi will like to have some advice if i should take up an offer in one of the ministry.

I applied for a civil service role 7 months ago, which they set an interview 3 months later. Till now i have yet to receive or sign the contract but they have notified me I am finally able to go down next week. I am currently working in a Big 4 advisory for 1.5 years and am up for promotion and a 30% pay increment in July (2nd year associate to 1st year senior). The ministry postion title is the same and 10% lesser than what i will receive if i stay on and it's on a 2 year contract (when i applied they stated permanent)

Work wise is totally different and I dont mind trying something new. I do not see myself staying on in Big 4 for the long term or this particular industry i'm in, but should i wait till july or another 6 months? Which tbh i not sure if i will be enjoying and able to get another offer easily again.

Career progression, stress level , work life balance not sure if its better. Of course if the hiring process didnt take so long, i would have taken the job, but now that im closer to the promotion and increment, the benefits to take the offer now decreases.
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