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Old 09-12-2019, 01:51 PM
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Would like some advice from my gp colleagues. Currently a mo who just completed bond. Just wondering if I apply for a gp job outside with one of the large chain gp groups, what sort of salary should I be expecting? (Do I have to put my estimated salary just like any other job application in other industries or it's pretty much a fixed salary that they offer to all newbies like myself?). And any major difference between the different groups (eg rmg vs healthwayvs minimed etc) or they are largely similar?

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Currently an Singaporean going to study medicine in Australia, Iíve been hearing rumours that Singaporeans abroad are being denied a PGY1 spot in Singapore. Is this true? Even though there are 100+ schools that are cut from the second schedule? I will be finishing Med school in 6 years, will the problem improve as years pass if true? My school is still on the second schedule. Thanks
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abit of B/G for myself. I've spent my student years roaming SGH on weekends and holidays just because i am IMG trained in aussieland.

Yes rumors are very true, I have friends who are denied jobs in SG for PGY1, I was lucky to survive the PEG interviews so I managed to secure jobs back home. ^(My friend had 40+ neuro publications under his belt)

No the situation will not improve over the years.
Let me do the math
The yearly HO (PGY1) spots is already maxed out around 6XX places.
NUS - 300
NTU -150
DUKE NUS- 80

That leaves about 100ish spots left

Not to mention those who gets through the PEG interview, I will put this number now at 50. (UK USA AUSSIE and everywhere else)

That leaves just 50 spots up for grabs.

Monash brings in around ?60 sg med students yearly and that is just 1 school alone...

So to answer your question, you will have to get a plan B and know that there is a high chance you cannot come back to SG.




BTW, waaa ^to the senior who talked about team 1 under dr chao and miss chng.
Couldnt tell that miss chng was a SARS survivor. << She is still she, very much alive and kicking ass in OT

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Old 10-12-2019, 12:19 AM
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Default MOHH Bonus

Does anyone knows if the MOHH provides performance bonus??
Like A grading = 6 months?
B = 4 months
B- = 3 months...

Correct me or fill me in !
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Does anyone knows if the MOHH provides performance bonus??
Like A grading = 6 months?
B = 4 months
B- = 3 months...

Correct me or fill me in !
Thanks
6 months of bonus? I don't think so!

I've been out of the system for over 10 years now.

But it is a joke. I remember a colleague lamenting about how he missed his A grading and his "bonus".

I asked what's the difference between the B and A in terms of bonus? He said it was like an extra half or 1 month of bonus?

I was like geez! You're talking maybe 7-8k in monetary value?

You bust your soul to work to get that A for an extra 7k? What are you gonna do with that 7k? Buy a house? A car?

Take it easy. Get the B. Spend more time with you family or even on trading stocks and make your 7k there.

It's not like in the financial sector where they write you a cheque for $200k as your bonus and pat you saying WELL DONE.

yes go buy your condo with that.
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6 months of bonus? I don't think so!

I've been out of the system for over 10 years now.

But it is a joke. I remember a colleague lamenting about how he missed his A grading and his "bonus".

I asked what's the difference between the B and A in terms of bonus? He said it was like an extra half or 1 month of bonus?

I was like geez! You're talking maybe 7-8k in monetary value?

You bust your soul to work to get that A for an extra 7k? What are you gonna do with that 7k? Buy a house? A car?

Take it easy. Get the B. Spend more time with you family or even on trading stocks and make your 7k there.

It's not like in the financial sector where they write you a cheque for $200k as your bonus and pat you saying WELL DONE.

yes go buy your condo with that.
Bro it is harder to work in bank than hosp.
Bank far more politics, must show results.
Medicine is quite standard one, just study a bit, make patient happy.
Also medicine harder to get sacked.
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6 months of bonus? I don't think so!

I've been out of the system for over 10 years now.

But it is a joke. I remember a colleague lamenting about how he missed his A grading and his "bonus".

I asked what's the difference between the B and A in terms of bonus? He said it was like an extra half or 1 month of bonus?

I was like geez! You're talking maybe 7-8k in monetary value?

You bust your soul to work to get that A for an extra 7k? What are you gonna do with that 7k? Buy a house? A car?

Take it easy. Get the B. Spend more time with you family or even on trading stocks and make your 7k there.

It's not like in the financial sector where they write you a cheque for $200k as your bonus and pat you saying WELL DONE.

yes go buy your condo with that.
Current MOHH MO here. Waiting for bond to end. Totally agree with this. spending time on stocks rather than busting my ass for that extra 1-2 months.
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Bro it is harder to work in bank than hosp.
Bank far more politics, must show results.
Medicine is quite standard one, just study a bit, make patient happy.
Also medicine harder to get sacked.
Yes that's why medicine pay is pathetic compared to at bank.

Starting pay of GS banker is what 10k?

Dealing with people is never easy anywhere. Better to go where you are paid the most to do same customer service suck up to people work.
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s://.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3009099/reprehensible-singapore-doctor-who-said-canadian-judge

How did this neurologist amass almost $50m? Can't say that doctors don't get paid enough
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s://.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3009099/reprehensible-singapore-doctor-who-said-canadian-judge

How did this neurologist amass almost $50m? Can't say that doctors don't get paid enough
The guy is 69 years old.

I will tell you how he did it. He invested in Property in Singapore.

That's the only way to do it. And in his generation that's how the doctors all got rich. Don't even need to be specialist. GP also can.

I remember an old time GP telling me how every year he would buy a Terrace house in the 80s. By the 2000s he had over 20+ houses. Each bought for about 200-300k. Can sell for 2m each.

The pay of GPs hasnt changed much since the 80s.
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The guy is 69 years old.

I will tell you how he did it. He invested in Property in Singapore.

That's the only way to do it. And in his generation that's how the doctors all got rich. Don't even need to be specialist. GP also can.

I remember an old time GP telling me how every year he would buy a Terrace house in the 80s. By the 2000s he had over 20+ houses. Each bought for about 200-300k. Can sell for 2m each.

The pay of GPs hasnt changed much since the 80s.
Thanks for the enlightenment. Your last sentence is so painful to hear...
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