How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I think the 200k is fair.

Coz when I teach medical students can tell them

Ac 180k
Fm mmed 200 k

So they know which field to choose

With FM promising better pay with just an MMed, why would someone wanna do another specialty? is it generally cos the ceiling of other specs is higher (ie leave for private n set up shop in pte hospital)?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

M5 from YLL. MBBS coming soon in less than a month, and feeling v stressed.

And having the last 70+ pages of this forum thread, I wonder what I wanna do in the future. All it seems that many OPS patients sound like complete **** and entitled, which is pretty consistent with what I rmb seeing during my M3 FM posting.

Can't say with certainty what I wanna do. Def not a Dean's lister-calibre student. Just an average student.

Should I do GP? Aesthetics? OPS? I've also heard of drs branching out to work as advisors in insurance companies, and as management consultants. Even saw a guy on LinkedIn who become a personal trainer lol. Or should I pursue specialty training instead? One thing I know I'm not keen on is GS hahahaha

What I can say is that I'm keen on having good working hours (without night calls), and a nice salary.

Don't really care about patients in the sense that I feel an 'overwhelming' and 'altruistic' passion to help/serve. To me, medicine is overhyped as sth which is a 'calling'. The reality is that it's a job. Goal is to wanna make money.

Medicine being a 'calling' and "not doing it for the money" is a way the top-level staff and administrators gaslight drs into being compensated less than they deserve IMO.

aiyo. this is forum thread for salary, but mostly current drs discussing.

maybe better to have separate thread for current students to discuss w one another.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

With FM promising better pay with just an MMed, why would someone wanna do another specialty? is it generally cos the ceiling of other specs is higher (ie leave for private n set up shop in pte hospital)?

Surgical AC is almost 300k
You are so naive to believe that fam med earns more hahaha

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Surgical AC is almost 300k
You are so naive to believe that fam med earns more hahaha

Dun bruff lei.
My wife ent ac 210k nia. Table fee another 10k.
She promote to C next year.
Heard increase 1k basic salary nia
But can have private patient. Hope table fee more.
My same batch good fren ortho con,quite productive being knee only 320k nia.

I chao gp
But I got a few clinic la.
Each clinic give me 50k to 200k profit annually.
I spend my time covering my GPs when they on mc or leave

Originally Posted by unregistered

i guess it's always multifactorial
pay is only one aspect
there's also always the part about overall substandard clinical care, bochup colleagues, self-entitled patients demanding everything while paying peanuts
people leave all the time, money probably not going to be enough to overcome the rest of the issues

this is so true, how can you expect the world with 5 min consults that you pay peanuts for

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The way I see it.

Govt likely to nationalise gp care.
That’s why so many polyclinic under construction
That’s why healthier sg was also included in ops.

It is going to be harder and harder for Pte gp to survive.

Not possible, there are still alot of people out there who dislike OPS

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1050 increment

Anyway u can just approach any friendly ops mmeder next mth
Ask him to show Jan payslip and Feb payslip.

This will also verify of the 200k is true

If the increment is 1050/mth, then the annual should be close to 200k/year

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i guess it's always multifactorial
pay is only one aspect
there's also always the part about overall substandard clinical care, bochup colleagues, self-entitled patients demanding everything while paying peanuts
people leave all the time, money probably not going to be enough to overcome the rest of the issues

Coming from a IM resident, I find it strange that ops care is substandard, given that they have much more resources than private gps (Apn, cm, cc, pharmacist etc)- at least that's what my fm colleague told me when she rotated through IM.
I did locum during my ns days, most gps only have 2 people, gp (i.e yourself) and the clinic assistant, whom needs me to check and countersign all the medication I prescribed. Hence I find it hard to believe ops care is more substandard than gp care (and we have not even accounted for the fact that many gp clinics are helmed by locums, so not sure where is the accountability).

Please Correct me if I am wrong, but I would like to know why is the ops model not working or worse than gp/the systemic flaws within it that limits pt care. (Genuinely curious as I honestly thought some of the gp clinics I locum in during army days are very badly run, and I can't envisage why ops could be worst)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Coming from a IM resident, I find it strange that ops care is substandard, given that they have much more resources than private gps (Apn, cm, cc, pharmacist etc)- at least that's what my fm colleague told me when she rotated through IM.
I did locum during my ns days, most gps only have 2 people, gp (i.e yourself) and the clinic assistant, whom needs me to check and countersign all the medication I prescribed. Hence I find it hard to believe ops care is more substandard than gp care (and we have not even accounted for the fact that many gp clinics are helmed by locums, so not sure where is the accountability).

Please Correct me if I am wrong, but I would like to know why is the ops model not working or worse than gp/the systemic flaws within it that limits pt care. (Genuinely curious as I honestly thought some of the gp clinics I locum in during army days are very badly run, and I can't envisage why ops could be worst)

Don't believe these jokers.

OPS has a better system in place. It is just that it is manned by young inexperienced drs and also there is much less time per patient.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Coming from a IM resident, I find it strange that ops care is substandard, given that they have much more resources than private gps (Apn, cm, cc, pharmacist etc)- at least that's what my fm colleague told me when she rotated through IM.
I did locum during my ns days, most gps only have 2 people, gp (i.e yourself) and the clinic assistant, whom needs me to check and countersign all the medication I prescribed. Hence I find it hard to believe ops care is more substandard than gp care (and we have not even accounted for the fact that many gp clinics are helmed by locums, so not sure where is the accountability).

Please Correct me if I am wrong, but I would like to know why is the ops model not working or worse than gp/the systemic flaws within it that limits pt care. (Genuinely curious as I honestly thought some of the gp clinics I locum in during army days are very badly run, and I can't envisage why ops could be worst)

Useless wall of text.
Where U read that polyclinic care is substandard to gp clinic care.