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Old 02-07-2020, 07:34 PM
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Not a salary related post but...

As a mid level lawyer in practice for a couple of years and occasionally checking in here, just want to say that this thread has degenerated into the worst level of s hitposting it has ever been.

This started from the circuit breaker time and literally hasn't stopped since then. Too many fresh grads and trainees that are too free with no work?

Seriously, take a look the content of your own posts. Occasional frivolous tongue-in-cheek remarks are fine. But this has become a non-stop train wreck of bitter, toxic, sometimes sexist and downright pathetic bitching/whining.

Those of you hung up about flaming others and putting them down because of where they studied. Take a good long look at yourselves. Are you any better than those you despise? If you were, you would stop flooding this place with your toxicity and do something to help your peers and community.

I'm saying this as an NUS grad, class of (between 2014 and 2015). If you really hail from local schools but feel the need to constantly p iss on UK or overseas grads, it just shows how frail your egos are. The workplace and your eventual performance in private practice will sift the wheat from the chaff, regardless of where you studied.

I'm frankly embarrassed to share membership in the same profession as some of you. This place has literally become a disgrace and even the other job threads like the SIM-UOL thread that is prone to exaggeration and s hitposting do not now hold a candle to how toxic this place is.

Let's put aside the fact that this thread's objective has always been for proper, working lawyers to obtain serious info about salaries since market data is generally opaque. Even as students or fresh grads, the least you could do is to help your fellow would-be lawyers along with a word of encouragement or info about job opportunities.

If you've any pride at all in the profession that you seek to join, and retain any form of personal dignity, then you would wake up your idea and start doing something good for the peers in your legal community and yourself rather than sitting behind the keyboard spewing rubbish over the same few topics ad nauseam.
Thank you for this. These commenters are clearly trolls (who may or may not be in the profession).

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Caffeine pills make your heart race. May not be good. I tried it in law school, felt more jittery. Some swear by it though.
I took ****** and got retained this year. I worked super hard. YMMV

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Caffeine pills make your heart race. May not be good. I tried it in law school, felt more jittery. Some swear by it though.
I took viiagra and got retained this year. I worked super hard. YMMV

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Heard that she isn't very nice as a partner, anyone care to share any tidbits of information?
can sue for defamation?
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Eh wah. Is it! At my b4 firm, I had heard when we reach 6 PQE (ie called to the Bar in middle of 2014) we would get $12,X00 only (before bonus)... And we are supposed to be lockstep and equivalent pay to another of the B4... Ugh... Hope my info is wrong then. But if so, it means that the step up from 5pqe in both these two firms is large (confirmed that standard track 5 pqe SA at these two firms gets $11,X00 before bonus)
Dunno which guy keep trying to say his 4PQE already $12k (not including bonus), and keep trying to say the salary scale damn high but refuse to give exact amount (really full of ****). Every year $1k jump, how you add $2k every year. Everytime ppl ask him he will say "it's true la - i make that much after my 3rd year, it's standard". Think fake news.
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btw the nus law guy running for election tried to cheat in an exam before. brought his notes and hid them under the exam paper even though prof said at the start of the exam that no notes can be brought in. prof went around checking and found out. he even tried to argue with the prof. ang mo prof was nice and did not give him a F. he walked out the exam hall only 1 hour into the exam though. presumably cos he didnt know how to complete the exam


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Dunno which guy keep trying to say his 4PQE already $12k (not including bonus), and keep trying to say the salary scale damn high but refuse to give exact amount (really full of ****). Every year $1k jump, how you add $2k every year. Everytime ppl ask him he will say "it's true la - i make that much after my 3rd year, it's standard". Think fake news.
I went back and checked the thread and it was multiple people saying it? Even if it was one guy, he did explain actually, so I don't think he "refuse to give the exact amount". According to those posters, the increments seem to be (according to the posts) -> 1PQE is somewhere between 6.5 to 7, each year increment is more than 1k (so let's estimate 1.3), and then there is one big promotion jump from JA to SA (let's assume 2.1k).

So let's say 1PQE 6.5k, 2 PQE 7.7k, 3 PQE 8.9, 4PQE 11k. Not 12k, but not that far off. Seems possible. Oso not sure which big 4 this is.

Can anyone confirm?
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I went back and checked the thread and it was multiple people saying it? Even if it was one guy, he did explain actually, so I don't think he "refuse to give the exact amount". According to those posters, the increments seem to be (according to the posts) -> 1PQE is somewhere between 6.5 to 7, each year increment is more than 1k (so let's estimate 1.3), and then there is one big promotion jump from JA to SA (let's assume 2.1k).

So let's say 1PQE 6.5k, 2 PQE 7.7k, 3 PQE 8.9, 4PQE 11k. Not 12k, but not that far off. Seems possible. Oso not sure which big 4 this is.

Can anyone confirm?
Sorry, I used 1.2 as the increment, so it should be 1PQE 6.5k, 2 PQE 7.8k, 3 PQE 9.1, 4PQE 11.2k
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i took viiagra and got retained this year. I worked super hard. Ymmv
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btw the nus law guy running for election tried to cheat in an exam before. brought his notes and hid them under the exam paper even though prof said at the start of the exam that no notes can be brought in. prof went around checking and found out. he even tried to argue with the prof. ang mo prof was nice and did not give him a F. he walked out the exam hall only 1 hour into the exam though. presumably cos he didnt know how to complete the exam
What the shi!t. Can NUS please verify this? The amount of dishonest people we have in the opposition is worrying. Please tell any MP asap on a P&C basis voting soon.
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