Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes actually for the grads from NUS, in the past 4 years or so NUS has aligned it with UK.
Typically in UK, on average it’s like this.

Top 10% - FCH
Next 60% - 2:1
Next 25% - 2:2
Bottom 5% - 3rd/fail

What is a low vs high 2:1 from SG schs? Does it make a difference for TC applications?

i have a weak 2:2 from NUS.

earning 150k pa in an inhouse role.

am i a loser?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

On to salaries,
Heard all the magic circles are cutting salaries even for SG office.

At 3PQE some of my peers are getting $25-30k SGD a month as an associate.
Sigh. No luck.

Fake news. Only heard one MC doing that.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i have a weak 2:2 from NUS.

earning 150k pa in an inhouse role.

am i a loser?

You're a loser because either (1) you're telling the truth but you feel the need to seek validation from an internet forum or (2) you're lying.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

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Grades/school are an absolutely trash way to decide someone's individual aptitude, attitude and potential. It only serves as an indicator, and not conclusive proof. This is practice. Not SCHOOL. Stop worshipping false idols, start doing and improving yourself.

Lol this is ********. This is law, not economics or liberal arts. It's a professional degree, like medicine. How you perform in the classroom in many ways directly correlates to how you will perform in practice because analysing facts, recommending arguments, reading cases, this is stuff you do on a day-to-day basis in practice. So to say that grades are "absolutely trash" to decide someone's aptitude at law is stupid.

What most people seem to be salty about (and this is their opinion, not mine) is that a NUS or SMU 2:1 is far harder to obtain than a first class at those delisted schools, but somehow they are put on the same level by employers. IF that were true, I kinda get where they're coming from. It sucks to work harder for one year longer just to lose out because your school is more rigorous.

But to those people saying their 2:2s from NUS/SMU are better than 2:1s or even FCH from the delisted unis, I'm gonna be straight with you: My honest opinion is that people who gets 2:2s from the local schools are either complete morons, completely unsuited for the law, or did not try at ALL throughout their time in law school. In NUS, it was so absurdly easy to get Bs even without going for a single seminar. I have no idea what you were doing.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

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Grades/school are an absolutely trash way to decide someone's individual aptitude, attitude and potential. It only serves as an indicator, and not conclusive proof. This is practice. Not SCHOOL. Stop worshipping false idols, start doing and improving yourself.

Lol this is ********. This is law, not economics or liberal arts. It's a professional degree, like medicine. How you perform in the classroom in many ways directly correlates to how you will perform in practice because analysing facts, recommending arguments, reading cases, this is stuff you do on a day-to-day basis in practice. So to say that grades are "absolutely trash" to decide someone's aptitude at law is stupid.

What most people seem to be salty about (and this is their opinion, not mine) is that a NUS or SMU 2:1 is far harder to obtain than a first class at those delisted schools, but somehow they are put on the same level by employers. IF that were true, I kinda get where they're coming from. It sucks to work harder for one year longer just to lose out because your school is more rigorous.

But to those people saying their 2:2s from NUS/SMU are better than 2:1s or even FCH from the delisted unis, I'm gonna be straight with you: My honest opinion is that people who gets 2:2s from the local schools are either complete morons, completely unsuited for the law, or did not try at ALL throughout their time in law school. In NUS, it was so absurdly easy to get Bs even without going for a single seminar. I really have no idea how you managed to get that

Originally Posted by Unregistered

.

Grades/school are an absolutely trash way to decide someone's individual aptitude, attitude and potential. It only serves as an indicator, and not conclusive proof. This is practice. Not SCHOOL. Stop worshipping false idols, start doing and improving yourself.

Lol this is ********. This is law, not economics or liberal arts. It's a professional degree, like medicine. How you perform in the classroom in many ways directly correlates to how you will perform in practice because analysing facts, recommending arguments, reading cases, this is stuff you do on a day-to-day basis in practice. So to say that grades are "absolutely trash" to decide someone's aptitude at law is stupid.

What most people seem to be salty about (and this is their opinion, not mine) is that a NUS or SMU 2:1 is far harder to obtain than a first class at those delisted schools, but somehow they are put on the same level by employers. IF that were true, I kinda get where they're coming from. It sucks to work harder for one year longer just to lose out because your school is more rigorous.

But.... to those people saying their 2:2s from NUS/SMU are better than 2:1s or even FCH from the delisted unis, I'm gonna be straight with you: My honest opinion is that people who gets 2:2s from the local schools are either complete morons, completely unsuited for the law, or did not try at ALL throughout their time in law school. In NUS, it was so absurdly easy to get Bs even without going for a single seminar. I really have no idea how you managed to get that

Originally Posted by Unregistered

.

Grades/school are an absolutely trash way to decide someone's individual aptitude, attitude and potential. It only serves as an indicator, and not conclusive proof. This is practice. Not SCHOOL. Stop worshipping false idols, start doing and improving yourself.

Lol this is ********. This is law, not economics or liberal arts. It's a professional degree, like medicine. How you perform in the classroom in many ways directly correlates to how you will perform in practice because analysing facts, recommending arguments, reading cases, this is stuff you do on a day-to-day basis in practice. So to say that grades are "absolutely trash" to decide someone's aptitude at law is stupid.

What most people seem to be salty about (their opinion, not mine) is that a NUS or SMU 2:1 is far harder to obtain than a first class at those delisted schools, but somehow they are put on the same level by employers. IF that were true, I kinda get where they're coming from. It sucks to work harder for one year longer just to lose out because your school is more rigorous.

But to those people saying their 2:2s from NUS/SMU are better than 2:1s or even FCH from the delisted unis, I'm gonna be straight with you: My honest opinion is that people who gets 2:2s from the local schools are either complete morons, completely unsuited for the law, or did not try at ALL throughout their time in law school. In NUS, it was so absurdly easy to get Bs even without going for a single seminar.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Lol this is ********. This is law, not economics or liberal arts. It's a professional degree, like medicine. How you perform in the classroom in many ways directly correlates to how you will perform in practice because analysing facts, recommending arguments, reading cases, this is stuff you do on a day-to-day basis in practice. So to say that grades are "absolutely trash" to decide someone's aptitude at law is stupid.

What most people seem to be salty about (their opinion, not mine) is that a NUS or SMU 2:1 is far harder to obtain than a first class at those delisted schools, but somehow they are put on the same level by employers. IF that were true, I kinda get where they're coming from. It sucks to work harder for one year longer just to lose out because your school is more rigorous.

But to those people saying their 2:2s from NUS/SMU are better than 2:1s or even FCH from the delisted unis, I'm gonna be straight with you: My honest opinion is that people who gets 2:2s from the local schools are either complete morons, completely unsuited for the law, or did not try at ALL throughout their time in law school. In NUS, it was so absurdly easy to get Bs even without going for a single seminar.

Okay, name me a famous first class accountant. It is a profession and it directly correlates (nice choice of words) with practice. Anyone? No? Good. That's because it DOESN'T FKING MATTER.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Okay, name me a famous first class accountant. It is a profession and it directly correlates (nice choice of words) with practice. Anyone? No? Good. That's because it DOESN'T FKING MATTER.

Name me a famous first class doctor. Anyone? No. Why? Again, for everyone else: NO ONE CARES.

I can name you a famous lawyer without a 2.1 or FCH.