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Old 18-04-2021, 02:59 PM
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Mate law student here and not OP. I think what was essentially said is the ceca agreement is a legal Trojan horse for cecas to infiltrate the local workforce to displace local workers, industry by industry. The ceca agreement was ironically expertly drafted by cecas government lawyers to benefit the ceca disproportionately. So it would seem their government lawyers are much better than our government lawyers...
Well CECA is a trade agreement.

The point here is essentially that given the jurisdictional nature of legal services plus other particular sociocultural factors, legal services are very unlikely to be replaced by "cheap Indian" lawyers under CECA. And by way of comparison, the EU, which is the most liberal and longest established free trade bloc, in reality sees very little free movement of lawyers practising law in other EU member states, apart from lawyers who specifically practise EU law in Brussels, Strasbourg and the ECJ in Luxembourg.

People often forget that the jurisdictional nature of law cuts both ways. As lawyers. it's not easy for us to move freely to practise in another common law jurisdiction. It's nearly impossible to practise in a non-common law jurisdiction due to regulatory criteria + likely language barrier.

We are much less internationally mobile than say a doctor, accountant or business consultant. But the converse works in our favour too and our market is quite well protected from Foreign Talent lawyers.

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Well CECA is a trade agreement.

The point here is essentially that given the jurisdictional nature of legal services plus other particular sociocultural factors, legal services are very unlikely to be replaced by "cheap Indian" lawyers under CECA. And by way of comparison, the EU, which is the most liberal and longest established free trade bloc, in reality sees very little free movement of lawyers practising law in other EU member states, apart from lawyers who specifically practise EU law in Brussels, Strasbourg and the ECJ in Luxembourg.

People often forget that the jurisdictional nature of law cuts both ways. As lawyers. it's not easy for us to move freely to practise in another common law jurisdiction. It's nearly impossible to practise in a non-common law jurisdiction due to regulatory criteria + likely language barrier.

We are much less internationally mobile than say a doctor, accountant or business consultant. But the converse works in our favour too and our market is quite well protected from Foreign Talent lawyers.
Agree. The barriers of entry are too high. But there are around 1 million lawyers in India. I don't see why some of them cannot replace us.

But even with CECA, what's the impetus? The Indian market is 1.3 billion. Lawyers make up 0.07% of India. This is less lawyers per population than Singapore. In Singapore, we have 5955 lawyers for 5.9 million people (0.1% of Singapore).

Given the numbers, the Indian legal market is lucrative enough. Also, it is more likely that the competition will come from developed parts of India, not the lawyers situated in rural areas dealing with small money disputes.

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do ppl change firms halfway thru tc?

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do ppl change firms halfway thru tc?
Yep. Not difficult. Just make sure your first supervisor signs off on all the documents before u leave. That bridge is gonna be burnt after
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what's the possible reasons for changing and isn't it quite hard to take leave to interview at another firm
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what's the possible reasons for changing and isn't it quite hard to take leave to interview at another firm
Yes they will think you are playing computer games and watching movies
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Yes they will think you are playing computer games and watching movies
ROFL.

Best comment ever.

No, but seriously - could be a number of factors. I've had trainees tell me the work is not "challenging" enough after 1 week. I've had trainees leave for bigger, more prestigious firms (usually the case) or simply an offer for a tc in an area of the law they feel they are more suited for.


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WongP has job openings posted from 19 May 2020 - anyone knows if they are actually hiring for these positions?
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WongP has job openings posted from 19 May 2020 - anyone knows if they are actually hiring for these positions?
They are always hiring.
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ROFL.

Best comment ever.

No, but seriously - could be a number of factors. I've had trainees tell me the work is not "challenging" enough after 1 week. I've had trainees leave for bigger, more prestigious firms (usually the case) or simply an offer for a tc in an area of the law they feel they are more suited for.
Thanks buddy. Be sure not to get the objection from your last supervising solicitor.
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