Lawyer Salary - Page 102 - Salary.sg Forums
Salary.sg Forums  

Go Back   Salary.sg Forums > The Salary.sg Discussion Forums: > Income and Jobs

Income and Jobs Discuss jobs, career options and of course salaries




Lawyer Salary

 Citibank Cash Back Card - up to $350 cash back* - Click to Apply Now 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1011 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2016, 06:43 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I would't put rodyk on the same tier as the big4... especially not in terms of attractiveness to fresh grads
How about Cavenagh Law and Wong & Leow

Reply With Quote
  #1012 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2016, 07:35 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
How are the law firms ranked in Sg? Is this correct?
1. Cavenagh Law
2. Wong & Leow

1. R&T
2. A&G
3. WP
4. Drew
5. Rodyk
In terms of difficulty to get a TC:

Corp
1. Clifford Chance
2. Baker/A&G
3. WP
4. R&T/Drew
5. Rodyk

Liti
1. Clifford Chance / Drew (Cavinder Bull's team)
2. Baker / WP (Corporate & Commercial Disputes team) / A&G (Ang Cheng Hock, Jason Chan's teams) / R&T (Appeals & Issues Group)
3. Rest of A&G/Drew/WP/R&T
4. Rodyk

Reply With Quote
  #1013 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2016, 09:07 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
In terms of difficulty to get a TC:

Corp
1. Clifford Chance
2. Baker/A&G
3. WP
4. R&T/Drew
5. Rodyk

Liti
1. Clifford Chance / Drew (Cavinder Bull's team)
2. Baker / WP (Corporate & Commercial Disputes team) / A&G (Ang Cheng Hock, Jason Chan's teams) / R&T (Appeals & Issues Group)
3. Rest of A&G/Drew/WP/R&T
4. Rodyk
Very helpful post. Thanks a lot. Why is it Baker and CC when their contracts are offered by their Singapore practice?

Reply With Quote
  #1014 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2016, 09:16 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Very helpful post. Thanks a lot. Why is it Baker and CC when their contracts are offered by their Singapore practice?
that's how they are known informally + they function more like one firm unlike many of the other JLVs.
Reply With Quote
  #1015 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2016, 09:28 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
that's how they are known informally + they function more like one firm unlike many of the other JLVs.
This is true. I'm an incoming trainee with Bakers, having interned there for a bit. Legally all of us lawyers are employed by Wong & Leow but functionally there's no difference. There's no "Baker" section of the firm - Wong & Leow was started by Baker partners so they can practice SG law.

Haven't been to CC but from what I hear from friends there its the same thing.

Its different as compared to, say, Stephenson Harwood/Virtus (e.g. Virtus still does accident/personal injury cases)
Reply With Quote
  #1016 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2016, 09:30 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
In terms of difficulty to get a TC:

Corp
1. Clifford Chance
2. Baker/A&G
3. WP
4. R&T/Drew
5. Rodyk

Liti
1. Clifford Chance / Drew (Cavinder Bull's team)
2. Baker / WP (Corporate & Commercial Disputes team) / A&G (Ang Cheng Hock, Jason Chan's teams) / R&T (Appeals & Issues Group)
3. Rest of A&G/Drew/WP/R&T
4. Rodyk
Agree with this, save for the fact that CC and Baker don't do much liti work - mostly arbi/specialised areas (e.g. IP).

Getting into CC is an order of magnitude harder than getting into the next tier (Baker/A&G corp)
Reply With Quote

  #1017 (permalink)  
Old 11-08-2016, 10:23 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
In terms of difficulty to get a TC:

Corp
1. Clifford Chance
2. Baker/A&G
3. WP
4. R&T/Drew
5. Rodyk

Liti
1. Clifford Chance / Drew (Cavinder Bull's team)
2. Baker / WP (Corporate & Commercial Disputes team) / A&G (Ang Cheng Hock, Jason Chan's teams) / R&T (Appeals & Issues Group)
3. Rest of A&G/Drew/WP/R&T
4. Rodyk
Have to disagree with the simplistic analysis you have got there. The difficulty really varies because in this supply glut, law firms are not longer just looking at grades or pro bono or whatever. Having said that grades are very important factors. These firms are only looking to offer TCs to former interns or FCHs. I understand that WP and Dentons are willing to looking beyond former interns and FCHs. To get their internship you must have so quality in your resume in Y2 that at least attracted the HR team.

P.s not sure if people here are in the industry. Rodyk & Davidson is now known as Denton Rodyk. They prefer to be called Dentons o.O
Reply With Quote
  #1018 (permalink)  
Old 11-08-2016, 10:24 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Agree with this, save for the fact that CC and Baker don't do much liti work - mostly arbi/specialised areas (e.g. IP).

Getting into CC is an order of magnitude harder than getting into the next tier (Baker/A&G corp)
Thank you for all the replies. Very informative and helpful. Helps to know where the application thresholds are. How about the rest after [CC, Baker, Big Four + Rodyk], i.e. the other locals + JLVs, TSMP, Shook Lin, KhattarWong, ATMD Bird & Bird, Lee & Lee, Harry Elias, TKQP, KCP, CNP?
Reply With Quote
  #1019 (permalink)  
Old 11-08-2016, 12:06 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Have to disagree with the simplistic analysis you have got there. The difficulty really varies because in this supply glut, law firms are not longer just looking at grades or pro bono or whatever. Having said that grades are very important factors. These firms are only looking to offer TCs to former interns or FCHs. I understand that WP and Dentons are willing to looking beyond former interns and FCHs. To get their internship you must have so quality in your resume in Y2 that at least attracted the HR team.

P.s not sure if people here are in the industry. Rodyk & Davidson is now known as Denton Rodyk. They prefer to be called Dentons o.O
This is not true. I am not a first and am an incoming trainee at Bakers. I got my TC before interning there. I have a friend who is similarly not a first and is an incoming trainee at CC. I have TONS of friends that are going to the big 4 and are not firsts and haven't interned at their firms. There are a number who aren't even 2nd uppers (without connections).

Ha ha everyone calls them rodyk no matter what they want to be called...same for stamford
Reply With Quote
  #1020 (permalink)  
Old 11-08-2016, 12:11 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Have to disagree with the simplistic analysis you have got there. The difficulty really varies because in this supply glut, law firms are not longer just looking at grades or pro bono or whatever. Having said that grades are very important factors. These firms are only looking to offer TCs to former interns or FCHs. I understand that WP and Dentons are willing to looking beyond former interns and FCHs. To get their internship you must have so quality in your resume in Y2 that at least attracted the HR team.

P.s not sure if people here are in the industry. Rodyk & Davidson is now known as Denton Rodyk. They prefer to be called Dentons o.O
Poster above...have to agree that law firms are looking out for more than grades. Most firms look out for mooters, prize winners, and interesting CCAs/sports/non-academic interests - particularly mooting at the international level. I know this because I have a good number of mooting friends who got hired during moots (i.e. by their coaches or judges) or because of their moots (i.e. get invited to firm "lunches" etc after winning moots).

Pro bono doesnt seem to really factor in except at particular firms. I have zero pro bono hours on my CV.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
advocate, law, lawyer, legal, solicitor

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
From Lawyer Insider: Life is Glamorous but Unsatisfying Salary.sg Income and Jobs 31 15-01-2018 12:40 PM

» 30 Recent Threads
Lawyer Salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
8,149 Replies, 2,726,318 Views
Pay grade at CSA ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
109 Replies, 28,366 Views
need some info on CNB ( 1 2)
16 Replies, 1,156 Views
Citibank Technology Analyst Program
9 Replies, 3,921 Views
I need honest advice. Jump to... ( 1 2)
18 Replies, 1,929 Views
Retiring in Taiwan
4 Replies, 163 Views
Anyone jobless for a long time... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
2,942 Replies, 1,100,731 Views
High Finance Thread ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
101 Replies, 18,201 Views
Enterprise Singapore hiriing... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
102 Replies, 33,177 Views
Compare civil service salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
10,317 Replies, 5,662,044 Views
How To Find Rich & Elite In...
1 Replies, 93 Views
How much are you earning per annum? ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
11,948 Replies, 3,755,176 Views
Career as Teacher ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
2,723 Replies, 1,641,873 Views
Advantages
1 Replies, 849 Views
Private Banking Salaries ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
77 Replies, 101,317 Views
Civil Svc/ Statboard - Typical... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
2,275 Replies, 1,001,454 Views
MINDEF DXO (All FAQ on it) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
3,344 Replies, 1,933,203 Views
Aircraft Maintenance License and... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
605 Replies, 461,463 Views
Mid-Year Civil Servant Bonus 2019 ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,654 Replies, 790,248 Views
anyone working at NCS ? ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
405 Replies, 294,466 Views
Ntu sociology degree ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
57 Replies, 47,536 Views
Corporate Banking Analyst
7 Replies, 646 Views
DBS Management Associate Program... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,821 Replies, 281,946 Views
How much do you need to retire...
6 Replies, 279 Views
Queries about Cpib application ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,117 Replies, 510,963 Views
Job offer from Apple ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
469 Replies, 91,222 Views
Whats your net worth ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
2,740 Replies, 805,192 Views
Getting funded for university
0 Replies, 108 Views
Unilever UFLP 2018 ( 1 2 3)
23 Replies, 7,892 Views
Advice for "Research Coordinator"...
7 Replies, 4,694 Views
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2



All times are GMT +8. The time now is 11:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2