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Old 12-08-2023, 09:10 PM
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Actually how many election duties must one do to waive off future arrows? three?

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Like many of the previous posts mentioned, teachers' pay is somewhat at the median, so I wouldn't think there are huge differences if accounting for annual income. What's more relevant here is the number of working hours. Divide out into per hour, and there may be quite a significant difference compared to other sectors.

And don't forget that bonuses are non-guaranteed. Everyone had little bonus in 2019 and zero bonus in 2020. There is always still some risk of bonuses being adjusted. They're not guaranteed like base salaries.
Oh pls. If you read the comments on here, people make it out like teachers are being paid poverty level salaries.

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The bulk of civil service consists of staff from MOE. If there is a PE, it just shows how out of touch the top is from the perceived bottom.
The fact that a press release stated the off in lieu and changes to exam dates shows that due consideration was given. Again, this example further differentiated people capable of bigger picture thinking versus those who are stuck staring at their own navels.

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The fact that a press release stated the off in lieu and changes to exam dates shows that due consideration was given. Again, this example further differentiated people capable of bigger picture thinking versus those who are stuck staring at their own navels.
You, or someone, should read this
s://.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/15o4091/teachers_are_literal_civil_servants/
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Actually how many election duties must one do to waive off future arrows? three?
Think before you ask such a question...
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After all, she has presented a valid question, and I am unsure why your response was ill-mannered.
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Telegram group for chitchats! if you need to rant, bounce ideas or seek thoughts.
s://t.me/+AV47mPSglrE4YjQ1
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You, or someone, should read this
s://.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/15o4091/teachers_are_literal_civil_servants/
OK and. That post makes it seem like only teachers need to go for election duty. Civil servants across ALL ministries get selected to do election duty. Man is whining about having to go for election training. So what's the alternative, you all want unprepared and ignorant election officials to do the election duty is it?

Oh let's also not forget r/sg's favourite complaint. Needing to do NS/ICT.
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Is anyone questioning why our polling day is held on teachers day? Not only does this mean that many teachers might be overseas, it also means that families might be out of town. This also affects celebrations since many officials have to set up on Thursday itself. Did no one think this through carefully or did they just not care about teachers?
MOE was definitely consulted because they (with SEAB) made two announcements right after ELD announced the polling date.
1. Teachers day off on 11 Sep;
2. N-level schedule changes.

In other words, either MOE didn't fight to protect teachers' day on 1 Sep, or other ministries'/PMO's/ELD's priorities overrode MOE.

Given that a lot of ELD's manpower is from MOE and schools are likely to be polling centres, I won't be surprised if the calculation was: since teachers have to be around for the 31 Aug school-based teachers' day celebration, and its a half day event, the teachers are available for the other half to set up the schools as polling stations.
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MOE was definitely consulted because they (with SEAB) made two announcements right after ELD announced the polling date.
1. Teachers day off on 11 Sep;
2. N-level schedule changes.

In other words, either MOE didn't fight to protect teachers' day on 1 Sep, or other ministries'/PMO's/ELD's priorities overrode MOE.

Given that a lot of ELD's manpower is from MOE and schools are likely to be polling centres, I won't be surprised if the calculation was: since teachers have to be around for the 31 Aug school-based teachers' day celebration, and its a half day event, the teachers are available for the other half to set up the schools as polling stations.
overheard two SLs today...

"eh the celebration on 1st sep also dunno how leh. if they need to take over the hall earlier to set up the station, how to celebrate?"

"aiya then celebration change to parade square lor"

"huh cannot la! how to celebrate there??"

anyway, fight or no fight, observations will already show which ministry is bigger or more important...look at reservist/enlistment... elections... covid restrictions...

people can argue how much more important other things are compared to education or educational institutes and vice versa... and these are the facts portrayed by the gov already lol. they'll tell u to either accept or resign lor
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