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Old 02-07-2023, 03:09 PM
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Why would you bother about the age limit to enter, when you have already been invited for it?


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Just received invite for FLP, non scholar and non KP. Wondering what's the criteria, because there's just so many rumours floating around. Is there an allowance? Any age cap to enter the programme, and does it mean there will be KP opportunities? TIA

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Old 02-07-2023, 03:16 PM
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I have a few starting at GEO3. I wouldn't call them mid careers but they have about 4 years of working experience before joining MOE. They were then promoted to GEO4 after two years. There is also a mid career who started teaching at GEO5, I believe to match/because of her previous salary.
any working experience outside before joining, is considered mid career. even 1 year is counted.

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Old 02-07-2023, 03:29 PM
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Hi, I recently applied for OPE, got an offer from a school and accepted it on HRP. What will be the follow up from here? Will I be informed regarding when I will be released from my current school (Jan or jul)?

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Old 02-07-2023, 03:31 PM
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any working experience outside before joining, is considered mid career. even 1 year is counted.
Really? I've 2 years working experience in engineering but moe placed me at geo2 pgde, same starting salary as those fresh grads.
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Old 02-07-2023, 04:40 PM
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1 depends on your school culture. Some SLs will give the B quotas to the rest who are staying. Not good for morale if those who are staying get Cs.

2 you will need to choose. Also, bear in mind that the offers might come in at different timing, and you are given only a few days to consider each offer. The org is also competing for people, so they want you to make your decision fast, so that they know whether to offer to the next person on their list. And offers might come weeks apart, and you might end up rejecting an offer, only to not get anything at all. Or accepting an offer too early, and missing out on better offers down the road.
Thanks for your honest responses.

Not sure about OPE, but my school gave most newly promoted officers C. I myself received one of the lower quantum of grade C after promoting to GEO4. I'm guessing the school will not let officers applying for OPE off either since they might be considered "less deserving and less appreciative"
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Really? I've 2 years working experience in engineering but moe placed me at geo2 pgde, same starting salary as those fresh grads.
Welcome to slavery town!!
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Thanks for your honest responses.

Not sure about OPE, but my school gave most newly promoted officers C. I myself received one of the lower quantum of grade C after promoting to GEO4. I'm guessing the school will not let officers applying for OPE off either since they might be considered "less deserving and less appreciative"
So to be safe, it makes sense to apply for OPE in the year of promotion. This seems to make the most sense in terms of perf grade since likely you’re not getting a good grade for that year unless you’re a kp
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3 yrs, male, PGDE, GEO4, 6.1k

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18 yrs, female,NIE grad, SEO1 (HOD), 9.8k
15 yrs, male, PGDE, SEO1 (HOD), 9.4k
13 yrs, female, mid-career, GEO5A, 8.5k (increment 5 to 5A was only $200)
12 yrs, male, PGDE, GEO5, 7.4k
11 yrs, male, NIE grad, GEO5 (SH), 7.6k
9 yrs, female, HOD,*NUS*grad, GEO5, about 7k plus (she said it's below 8k)
8 yrs, male, GEO5, SH, 7.5K
8 yrs, male, PGDE local FCH, GEO 3, 6.2k
8 yrs, male, GEO3, 5.9k
6 yrs, male, PGDE Overseas degree, GEO5 6.6k
6 yrs, male, PGDE local degree (HQ officer), GEO5 6.7k
6 yrs, male, PGDE local degree (HQ officer), GEO4 6.3k
6 yrs, female, NIE grad, GEO4 (SH new), 6k
6 yrs, male, NIE grad, GEO4, 6.2k
5 yrs, female, NIE grad, GEO3, 5.1k
4 yrs, female, mid-career, GEO3, 6.1k
4 yrs, male, NIE grad, GEO4, 5.3k
3 yrs, male PGDE, GEO3, 5.4k
3 yrs, male PGDE, GEO3, 5.7k
Secondary school.
FCH. Entered school in 2020. Promotion grades for past 3 years are As and Bs. Promoted this year to GEO4. Holding SH position. Non-scholar.
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Really? I've 2 years working experience in engineering but moe placed me at geo2 pgde, same starting salary as those fresh grads.
Did you declare your working experience prior to joining PGDE?

Nevertheless, the post earlier is right. As long as they are put into GEO3 the moment they start, it is not pure PGDE (where someone e.g. on Teacher Scholar Programme or those direct uni students who goes PGDE right after their degree from another university), in these cases we will term these 'GEO3s' as mid career already. Because they are in GEO3 the moment they join.

Everyone else, as long as non-mid career, starts together at GEO2, with similar pay.

For your situation, am not really sure already. Maybe you can call up HR to just check. Maybe 2 years outside working experience not enough to go GEO3, but your starting salary may be already higher (e.g. you're female but your starting salary is same as NS male grad)
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Thanks for your honest responses.

Not sure about OPE, but my school gave most newly promoted officers C. I myself received one of the lower quantum of grade C after promoting to GEO4. I'm guessing the school will not let officers applying for OPE off either since they might be considered "less deserving and less appreciative"
The year that you get promoted, you get a C for sure. At most a C+

There is no one getting above C+

Nothing surprising about the newly promoted officers getting Cs. Same for everyone, regardless whether you apply for OPE, or leave, or not.
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