MINDEF DXO (All FAQ on it)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyone joined DIS?
Actually is MDES scheme.
I'm a software engineer just hit 40s, looking for a gov job i can work until retirement in as startup life starts to feel too hectic and uncertain for my age.

Any idea if mindef even hire pple in their 40's for their jobs in the 1st place?
Do share estimated % or real life case examples if any.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is there anyone who has thought of leaving just a mere 4months due to all the red tapes and culture in the min the military? My past experiences were all commerical can i start to feel painful here

Ex DXO here. I've known people who leave immediately after they start work. if your values can't match the organization, it will indeed be painful. govt work is always with a lot of red tapes, in the name of preventing abuses or corruption. more so in the military where DSTA has even more red tapes.

other than that, secondary appointments are plenty and waste a lot of time. it's not as if they pay us extra to do another person's job. worst is staffing papers for approval and bosses ask stupid questions and waste time.

my advice to you is to stick it out for 1 year. be humble and spend time talking to colleagues to teach/guide you. build rapport with the guys under you (if any). read up more on all the orders to understand the organization better. then evaluate again. sometimes its not the work, its the people.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Any idea if mindef even hire pple in their 40's for their jobs in the 1st place?
Do share estimated % or real life case examples if any.

there are plenty of mid career hires like yourself. you just need to win your competition.

Got contacted for interview (for defence policy office). Anyone know roughly what/how they will conduct the interview? Like is it just going to be you and the hiring manager or will have more interviewers? Fresh grad here btw.

**** you **** this testing testing

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ex DXO here. I've known people who leave immediately after they start work. if your values can't match the organization, it will indeed be painful. govt work is always with a lot of red tapes, in the name of preventing abuses or corruption. more so in the military where DSTA has even more red tapes.

other than that, secondary appointments are plenty and waste a lot of time. it's not as if they pay us extra to do another person's job. worst is staffing papers for approval and bosses ask stupid questions and waste time.

my advice to you is to stick it out for 1 year. be humble and spend time talking to colleagues to teach/guide you. build rapport with the guys under you (if any). read up more on all the orders to understand the organization better. then evaluate again. sometimes its not the work, its the people.

Omg. U really pointed out my main concern. To be frank, my main join is manageable, not as hectic/busy as compared to MNCs. But is the secondary appointment (which i just been selected for 2 roles) and the regulars under me. I dont seems to be able to blend in and with their long service (10YOE +/-) keep giving attitudes which i kinda unable tolerate. Still trying to figure out a way to talk to them..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ex DXO here. I've known people who leave immediately after they start work. if your values can't match the organization, it will indeed be painful. govt work is always with a lot of red tapes, in the name of preventing abuses or corruption. more so in the military where DSTA has even more red tapes.

other than that, secondary appointments are plenty and waste a lot of time. it's not as if they pay us extra to do another person's job. worst is staffing papers for approval and bosses ask stupid questions and waste time.

my advice to you is to stick it out for 1 year. be humble and spend time talking to colleagues to teach/guide you. build rapport with the guys under you (if any). read up more on all the orders to understand the organization better. then evaluate again. sometimes its not the work, its the people.

Omg, you pointed out my concern. It’s people. For job itself, it’s manageable and not as hectic as compared to commercial. There are SAs under me who are regulars and very experienced (10YOE +/-) and thus they have this attitude which i cant handle. Kinda rude. Still thinking how to talk to them. They are the only problem in this role.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Omg, you pointed out my concern. It’s people. For job itself, it’s manageable and not as hectic as compared to commercial. There are SAs under me who are regulars and very experienced (10YOE +/-) and thus they have this attitude which i cant handle. Kinda rude. Still thinking how to talk to them. They are the only problem in this role.

yup, understand what you mean. my advice is to stand from their point of view. they are used to certain speeds/standards. they need their superior to understand them and the work process. suddenly a new guy who knows nothing become their supervisor. they have to teach you while busy, probably entertaining a lot of your questions.

my advice is to still be humble. be careful on how you talk to them, i.e. dont boss them for answers. dont think you are above them, but partners at work. sit beside them to understand and discuss (dont always email or text). you could also appear rude to them, so be really aware on your words and expressions (rolling eyes, giving frustrated look etc). lastly, demonstrate that you really have the ability to lead them and your ability to work and learn. overtime, once there's mutual understanding, you all will develop a pace or style that suits both of you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

yup, understand what you mean. my advice is to stand from their point of view. they are used to certain speeds/standards. they need their superior to understand them and the work process. suddenly a new guy who knows nothing become their supervisor. they have to teach you while busy, probably entertaining a lot of your questions.

my advice is to still be humble. be careful on how you talk to them, i.e. dont boss them for answers. dont think you are above them, but partners at work. sit beside them to understand and discuss (dont always email or text). you could also appear rude to them, so be really aware on your words and expressions (rolling eyes, giving frustrated look etc). lastly, demonstrate that you really have the ability to lead them and your ability to work and learn. overtime, once there's mutual understanding, you all will develop a pace or style that suits both of you.

To be frank, they keep telling me that they are busy and not able to entertain my questions and gave me that the frustrated response. I can self service if they can at least point out where i can find the answers... i dont see i have a problem handling people until i am here. It's a whole new different world from commercial. Now i understand why people who used to be 1 side usually have difficulties crossing over to the other side

hi, does anyone know if after submitting G50 i still have to go down for any test related to g50? if yes how long does it usually take?