Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Does tax have better working hours than audit?

During their busy season, it’s almost as bad as audit.

But if you mean over 12 months total hours - wayyyyyy better.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can someone explain the obsession with ISCA? Why do you even need it?

You don’t -need- it unless you are aiming to become public accountant to sign audited financial statements.

Most people want it because
1) it’s a designation you can put on your name card and resume to bolster your profile.
2) An entire generation of NUS/NTU/SMU seniors got the membership for much less effort because it used to be a 5 days course instead of all these papers. In the transitioning cohorts, we got no choice else cannot compete with our seniors when looking for jobs.
3) You can’t call yourself a professional without a membership in a professional body. Lawyers doctors engineers accountants all got professional body and to abide by a code of ethics and conduct.
4) It’s like a video game achievement, you chose this job, the natural progression is to unlock this title. Why else are you even playing this class for?

But ultimately the value and prestige of the title is dependent on the prestige of the industry as a whole. And if the whole accountancy major is reduced to BBCC then in my opinion it’s no longer the same as when it was AAA or AAB.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You don’t -need- it unless you are aiming to become public accountant to sign audited financial statements.

Most people want it because
1) it’s a designation you can put on your name card and resume to bolster your profile.
2) An entire generation of NUS/NTU/SMU seniors got the membership for much less effort because it used to be a 5 days course instead of all these papers. In the transitioning cohorts, we got no choice else cannot compete with our seniors when looking for jobs.
3) You can’t call yourself a professional without a membership in a professional body. Lawyers doctors engineers accountants all got professional body and to abide by a code of ethics and conduct.
4) It’s like a video game achievement, you chose this job, the natural progression is to unlock this title. Why else are you even playing this class for?

But ultimately the value and prestige of the title is dependent on the prestige of the industry as a whole. And if the whole accountancy major is reduced to BBCC then in my opinion it’s no longer the same as when it was AAA or AAB.

I see Keppel outsourced their finance department to Philippines. Even we obtain CA, seem like also no use? Unless we are cheaper than Philippines?

I noticed guys working in this industry are all weirdo, awkward, shy, introvert.

Like cannot find gf that kind of guy.

I also understand some of my friends working in this industry visited geylang for prostitute services.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I noticed guys working in this industry are all weirdo, awkward, shy, introvert.

Like cannot find gf that kind of guy.

I also understand some of my friends working in this industry visited geylang for prostitute services.

The dating game is hard when you’re working wkdays to midnight and even working on wkends.

I found my partner in the firm. Despite people saying don’t eat where you ****.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I noticed guys working in this industry are all weirdo, awkward, shy, introvert.

Like cannot find gf that kind of guy.

I also understand some of my friends working in this industry visited geylang for prostitute services.

Even prostitutes make more $ without even considering the hours

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Even prostitutes make more $ without even considering the hours

Is it so difficult for audit senior, audit manager and audit partner to justify their time cost?

E.g. During off peak period, audit partner got no files to review, they still getting the same salary? How they justify their pay to the management?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Seems like a lot of seniors all quitting without job offers nowadays?

Yep, 7 in my batch left, only 1 has a job offer.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yep, 7 in my batch left, only 1 has a job offer.

are you stupid? why?

Why nowadays all the audit manager have to do the saikang and fieldwork ?

I remember 10 years ago when I was audit associate, the audit manager shake leg only and review file

Now I am audit manager, I have to do the saikang, cover everything, fieldwork...seem like more scope ...

I really remember my audit manager 10 years ago shake leg only