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Old 04-04-2024, 10:47 AM
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Getting 6.6k at AD 1 is already not bad. If you stay longer and cruise around, you will be at least 10K before 35. canít imagine those who do nothing at work and get such pay. Good life. Those that are farmers will feel unjust
You may have some different understanding of what is farmer. To be fair, there are many farmers among the rank and file in MAS, just that for some of them the soil just happen to be better at their plot of land, or they are smarter to farm with more efficient tools, have wider farmer networks to barter farming equipment or are simply more well liked by supervising farmers. Over time, they become experienced farmer and as a result earn more, especially if the crops they produce are well received.

I may be wrong but I also believe that most in management team are not scholars, unless you are including MAS scholarship to study.

Having said that, 10k pay is around the base for the most minion DD (just comparing officers on mx scheme), how about imagining those who get pay of 15-20k and above to ask their subordinates many many questions!

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Meritocracy in public sector is fake and reserved for scholars only la. Only pte sector got true meritocracy. You can perform u get promoted, not minimum age or years of experience limit. Look at chew sou zhi, he not scholar but away above those scholars who hide behind their papers.
you think scholars are subject to meritocracy? Their path is already decided before their first day regardless of performance.

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you think scholars are subject to meritocracy? Their path is already decided before their first day regardless of performance.
I disagree leh. Your analysis is too blunt and does not recognise the fact that these days there are more and more scholars from everywhere. So being a scholar alone is no longer a distinguishing factor on its own. Iíve also seen scholars being sidelined due to unremarkable performance.

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You may have some different understanding of what is farmer. To be fair, there are many farmers among the rank and file in MAS, just that for some of them the soil just happen to be better at their plot of land, or they are smarter to farm with more efficient tools, have wider farmer networks to barter farming equipment or are simply more well liked by supervising farmers. Over time, they become experienced farmer and as a result earn more, especially if the crops they produce are well received.

I may be wrong but I also believe that most in management team are not scholars, unless you are including MAS scholarship to study.

Having said that, 10k pay is around the base for the most minion DD (just comparing officers on mx scheme), how about imagining those who get pay of 15-20k and above to ask their subordinates many many questions!
"imagining those who get pay of 15-20k and above to ask their subordinates many many questions!" -> Heh
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Old 04-04-2024, 11:09 PM
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Where got 4 year associate. Associate to AD is automatic after 2.5 years
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Associate Year 1 - 4650
Associate Year 2 - 5150
Associate Year 3 - 5750

Debunked your 2.5 years...
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Old 04-04-2024, 11:16 PM
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Associate Year 1 - 4650
Associate Year 2 - 5150
Associate Year 3 - 5750

Debunked your 2.5 years...
Not really,

Associate Year 1 - 4650 - (Start TO role in July 2020)
Associate Year 2 - 5150 - (April 2021 increment)
Associate Year 3 - 5750 - (April 2022 increment)

April 2023 is where Assoc becomes AD which is backdated to 1 Jan 2023

So time spent as assoc is 2.5 years (Jul 2020 - Jan 2023)
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"imagining those who get pay of 15-20k and above to ask their subordinates many many questions!" -> Heh
Some of them is really asking for the sake of asking to show that they are reviewing your work.
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Some of them is really asking for the sake of asking to show that they are reviewing your work.
Or never read carefully what is in existing email chain or other reading materials.
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Old 05-04-2024, 11:12 PM
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Associate Year 1 - 4650
Associate Year 2 - 5150
Associate Year 3 - 5750
AD 1 - 6615
Is this only for TOs? Would mid joiners as AD be getting $500 increment each cycle too?
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Or never read carefully what is in existing email chain or other reading materials.
What do they do besides review? Just attend meetings talk two or three (mostly unnecessary viewpoints). Even the presentations to committees are done by subordinates. MAS can save plenty of money by cutting out division heads.
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