MAS for Mid Career Professionals

Originally Posted by Unregistered

To add on, I really gave my all. Work OT, weekend if necessary. F*** MAS.

Aiyah, sometimes it's not what you can do, but who you know. You know I know can liao.......

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Joined 2 years ago as grade 11. Grade "excellent" for 2 straights years. No re-designation.

Another person also joined as grade 11 for 2 years, first year went for maternity leave, second year didn't do much (i know because we were on a major project together and i tanked most of the work), end up this person got re-designated to grade 10.

Mid-career prospects, think carefully before joining.

Is it worth getting so worked up over not getting redesignated. Many are hung up over getting DD title, not realising promotion prospects after that are limited. Most will get to TL with tons of work, get stuck there for rest of time in MAS or leave.

Also, its not difficult to identify you from the little you said. Next time don’t give so much info about your grade and rating on public forum. If you intend to stay on, watch your back as the consequences can be very ugly if you step on toes of certain people.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am also laughing reading this. You must be one of the "bosses".

Dear Sir, I am but a humble rank-and-file minion.

But I laugh at certain colleagues in other departments who keep lamenting about how they are underpaid and overworked in MAS.

These jokers won't survive a day in the private sector with the salary they are getting now. Asking them to know their worth is pointless because it isn't much to begin with.

The hard truth is that some departments have more transferable skillsets than others. If you are not in one of these departments, it wouldn't hurt to be thankful for the favourable circumstances you are in

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Aiyah, sometimes it's not what you can do, but who you know. You know I know can liao.......

Agree. If they want to promote you, they will find the reasons for it. If they don’t want to promote you, they will also be able to find reasons.

Reverse engineering is often present in decision making. The same set of facts can be used to argue that something is black or white, and the deciding factor is where the power balance lies. Then once it’s obvious what the desired end result should be, groupthink brings others involved to consensus such that the process appears collaborative.

There is a certain character fit that will last long in the organisation culture, which is keep your head down and do whatever work comes your way, don’t rock the boat unless you are a superstar (or even if you are a superstar), don’t disagree with your boss even if they are wrong. If you can accept this stay on, your time to be promoted will come some day, if you can’t tahan anymore no point complaining just move on.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is it worth getting so worked up over not getting redesignated. Many are hung up over getting DD title, not realising promotion prospects after that are limited. Most will get to TL with tons of work, get stuck there for rest of time in MAS or leave.

Also, its not difficult to identify you from the little you said. Next time don’t give so much info about your grade and rating on public forum. If you intend to stay on, watch your back as the consequences can be very ugly if you step on toes of certain people.

What if then person who is not redesignated is you? How would u feel?
"watch your back as the consequences can be very ugly if you step on toes of certain people" - where's the psyche safety then?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What if then person who is not redesignated is you? How would u feel?
"watch your back as the consequences can be very ugly if you step on toes of certain people" - where's the psyche safety then?

I was not redesignated. I chill. Haha. All I’m saying is there is no end to competition cos next time if she is promoted to become your TL or div head but you’re not you will also be unhappy.

It’s generally known that psyche safety is still one of the areas that needs work on. (Though it also depends who are your bosses, some are very nice) Take it or leave it!

I am a fresh grad what is the pay progression from associate please to ad

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am a fresh grad what is the pay progression from associate please to ad

Fresh grad please focus on getting confirmed first.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am a fresh grad what is the pay progression from associate please to ad

Agaration is 4.5k -> 6k give and take

Current associates / ADs pls update figures

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Fresh grad please focus on getting confirmed first.

Is the probation for TOs also 6 months (like for mid-career joiners) before they can be recommended to be confirmed as permanent headcount, or shorter?