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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Wow, you're considered entry level despite having some years of experience? Was your job experience relevant?

Irrelevant experience. sometimes even those with some relevant experience are given entry grades.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I also joined civil svc at 30 on entry level MXO grade but have seen my pay double in my 6 years now.

You have the wrong approach if you think you just need to wait your turn to get promoted, you have to climb to the top of the pile. But that is probably why you are where you are now.

i joined last year only. i'm an average worker and i'm comparing with other average workers in the company. if i join once i grad, my pay will be $1,000+ more, just need to perform average and wait for promotion.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i joined last year only. i'm an average worker and i'm comparing with other average workers in the company. if i join once i grad, my pay will be $1,000+ more, just need to perform average and wait for promotion.

I'm the person who asked the original question about 'late joiner' as I think I'll be like you..joining around 29 or 30.

They did not take into account your previous exp? Were you switching career path or something?

Is it weird joining at entry level and having your bosses/more senior staff be younger than you?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm the person who asked the original question about 'late joiner' as I think I'll be like you..joining around 29 or 30.

They did not take into account your previous exp? Were you switching career path or something?

Is it weird joining at entry level and having your bosses/more senior staff be younger than you?

switch career. got bad job in SME with no future, so even if they give me fresh grad pay, i already got a pay jump. they did give some token increment for my irrelevant experience, so it's higher than a fresh grad but much lower than my peers inside.

the feeling is not good when younger staffs get promoted first, but i can only su*ck thumb. are you in the same shoe as me?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Got called to attend MOH group meeting/discussion session with asst directors for the job of health policy planner (manpower and education dept).

First time I'm going for such group sessions...any tips? The HR person told me it's informal. It's the first so-called interview, no written test or one-to-one interview earlier... Must wayang a lot or not? Cos I can't stand that.

My advise is that, if you have the opportunity, or are asked, can try to portray yourself as someone who is comfortable with writing and being a generalist (rather than a specialist). i.e. someone who is comfortable being a jack of all trades. Just my general opinion, different departments may have specific traits they are looking for.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

switch career. got bad job in SME with no future, so even if they give me fresh grad pay, i already got a pay jump. they did give some token increment for my irrelevant experience, so it's higher than a fresh grad but much lower than my peers inside.

the feeling is not good when younger staffs get promoted first, but i can only su*ck thumb. are you in the same shoe as me?

something like that. planning to change career path. regretted what i studied in uni...worked for 1 year plus since grad and maybe going to study masters so i can switch career path.

but after studying will be quite old, so this is a concern for me. though i guess it's better than remaining in an industry i have no interest in.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

switch career. got bad job in SME with no future, so even if they give me fresh grad pay, i already got a pay jump. they did give some token increment for my irrelevant experience, so it's higher than a fresh grad but much lower than my peers inside.

the feeling is not good when younger staffs get promoted first, but i can only su*ck thumb. are you in the same shoe as me?

I also joined in late twenties. Based on my past 12 years exp, I can say it's pretty common to see younger colleagues to promote same time or even sooner than you. This is due to the fact that 1st promotion is always automatic within certain time-frame (e.g. 1-3 yrs), 2nd one is semi-auto. Taking longer term view, it will even out itself due to CEP system. Assuming same CEP, your increment will happen in larger quantum in later stage while your peers' salaries will face stagnation, as they're approaching ceiling.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I also joined in late twenties. Based on my past 12 years exp, I can say it's pretty common to see younger colleagues to promote same time or even sooner than you. This is due to the fact that 1st promotion is always automatic within certain time-frame (e.g. 1-3 yrs), 2nd one is semi-auto. Taking longer term view, it will even out itself due to CEP system. Assuming same CEP, your increment will happen in larger quantum in later stage while your peers' salaries will face stagnation, as they're approaching ceiling.

Does CEP stay the same even if you switch organizations within civil service/sb?

What if you switch to a different role/department?

Thinking of going overseas to study overseas, either US or UK.

Does anyone who has knowledge of civil service/stat board recruitment processes know if the SG government care about reputation/ranking of universities?

I know that the usual suspects like Oxbridge, Yale, Harvard, LSE etc. are looked upon favorably but what about below those? Is there a difference in the mind of the public service recruiters between a quite good but not top university and a mid-tier university? For example, universities like Manchester, Edinburgh, Bristol etc...they are quite prestigious in UK but wondering if there is any 'reputation effect' in the eyes of the govt employers here.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Does CEP stay the same even if you switch organizations within civil service/sb?

What if you switch to a different role/department?

It depends. CEP is never fixed and it's not linear. It can go up or down.

Typically, when you transfer, your boss would also change. Likely your CEP would also be reset because of these 2 reasons:
1) Your new boss doesn't know you well enough
2) You're learning new skills

Longer term, as long as you're passionate in your new job, your boss would likely like you and 'fight' to up your CEP.

p/s boss is referring to some superscale director, may not be your direct sup.