Compare civil service salary

I think it is rather sad if a scholar has to resort to this forum to seek gratification and validation.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I read this forum very often and this is the second time a person claimed this. The annual salary and age also similar. Someone already answered to the previous post of "is that considered above average". Now still come out ask again. I suspect both post may come from the same person and his or her intention is unknown.

Hearsay army got substantial salary revision. Good for those in green.

But sad that we MX farmers elsewhere are getting nothing despite the rising costs of living! Today, even the HDB income ceilings were raised to reflect this.

We should consider quitting to work in the private sector.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hearsay army got substantial salary revision. Good for those in green.

But sad that we MX farmers elsewhere are getting nothing despite the rising costs of living! Today, even the HDB income ceilings were raised to reflect this.

We should consider quitting to work in the private sector.

cannot compare army. their salary is very high anyway due to their operational needs. i mean, their career platform is opened to anyone, so you could sign on to be a part of those revision too.

Hi, I just completed my diploma recently. I am currently on NPL and will be returning to workforce soon. Been working with the ministry for 5years and I am under MX15 (monthly $2k). When I first joined the Ministry my highest qualification Higher Nitec. Since I have completed my dip, anyone knows will they revised my salary or no? Anyone from HR can advise on this. In dilemma. Should I stay (stability - perm staff) or look for better paying job if there is no revised in salary. TIA

Is the civil sector salary the same/better/not as good as the private sector?

Can someone explain this comparison to me. Fresh grad trying to learn here.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is the civil sector salary the same/better/not as good as the private sector?

Can someone explain this comparison to me. Fresh grad trying to learn here.

civil service is okay if you just want to put food on the table. bonus is just okay and job is iron-rice bowl.

private has better transferrable skills but pay can be low at start. more competitive in terms of output. so if you are driven to excel then private can challenge you to push yourself. depending on the types of coy, bonuses can be **** and can be good too.

just depends on what you want to do.

Hi all, I recently got a verbal offer and is pending checks. How long would the checks take usually? And do I need to be there physically for the checks?
I don't want to apply for too many leaves for my current part-time workplace (and I can't since I have been applying for more than the allowed number of days per month due to career fairs and interviews.....)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is the civil sector salary the same/better/not as good as the private sector?

Can someone explain this comparison to me. Fresh grad trying to learn here.

If you work in a SME, chances are that civil service will be much better than it.
If you work in a MNC/listed company, chances are that civil service will be much lousier than it in terms of potential for progress.

The civil service is progressively also getting more stringent on offering that iron rice bowl and increasingly more willing to let go of underperforming staff. That said, it still has the strongest stability for any employer once you get confirmed.

The worst thing about civil service for non scholars is that it has a deeply entrenched practice of rewarding people for their past achievements rather than their current contributions. E.g. if you hadve a first class honour degree, or if you are a govt scholar, you will get amplified credit for promotion even if there is someone who has objectively contributed more than you but who isnt a scholar. That can be extremely frustrating for talent who simply did not excel in school/ were exam smart.

Over time you will see that the scholars will remain, non-scholar talent will leave, and those who just wish to lie low and work hard for the next pay cheque will remain. This is the typical long term picture.

So you can decide based on your academic profile and character whether the civil service is good for you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi, I just completed my diploma recently. I am currently on NPL and will be returning to workforce soon. Been working with the ministry for 5years and I am under MX15 (monthly $2k). When I first joined the Ministry my highest qualification Higher Nitec. Since I have completed my dip, anyone knows will they revised my salary or no? Anyone from HR can advise on this. In dilemma. Should I stay (stability - perm staff) or look for better paying job if there is no revised in salary. TIA

a lot of factors to take into consideration:

1) did u take up the diploma on your own?
2) or were u sent by your ministry to take this diploma for further upgrading?

if 2), u can throw hints/be direct to your RO/boss and let him know that u have alr graduated n seek for promotion/higher pay.
NOTE N DISCLAIMER: not all M and SBs practice this. in fact, some of them even warn u beforehand on the bonded letter that nothing will happen to u even after graduation.

if your case is 1), im afraid that your organisation will only consider certs that are relevant to your industry. i know bcos i have seen ex-colleagues leaving after completing their degree n not getting rewarded at all.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If you work in a SME, chances are that civil service will be much better than it.
If you work in a MNC/listed company, chances are that civil service will be much lousier than it in terms of potential for progress.

The civil service is progressively also getting more stringent on offering that iron rice bowl and increasingly more willing to let go of underperforming staff. That said, it still has the strongest stability for any employer once you get confirmed.

The worst thing about civil service for non scholars is that it has a deeply entrenched practice of rewarding people for their past achievements rather than their current contributions. E.g. if you hadve a first class honour degree, or if you are a govt scholar, you will get amplified credit for promotion even if there is someone who has objectively contributed more than you but who isnt a scholar. That can be extremely frustrating for talent who simply did not excel in school/ were exam smart.

Over time you will see that the scholars will remain, non-scholar talent will leave, and those who just wish to lie low and work hard for the next pay cheque will remain. This is the typical long term picture.

So you can decide based on your academic profile and character whether the civil service is good for you.

This is indeed the situation in my stat board. Regret joining from private sector. No scholar no go.