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Old 10-09-2019, 09:31 AM
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anyone here working at Enterprise Singapore? How's the culture like in ESG Innovation & Enterprise Global Innovation Network division?

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If you have a good past record, you should go for a transfer of service because your past records and CEP gets transferred over. You also get to keep you years in service (get long service award faster, get additional 3 days of leave when you hit 10 years in service). More importantly, at the yearly ranking, HR and your bosses at the new place needs to take into account your previous work experiences and track record when they do your ranking and decide whether to promote you a not.

The only reason you should resign instead of a transfer of service is when you have a very bad record in your previous place (i.e. C-s and Ds or worse kena discipline case; Cs are not cosnidered bad grades in civil service, just normal) OR the new place offers you a huge jump in your salary from your previous place (at least 20% increase).

Note that to do a transfer of service, you need to be in the same generic civil service scheme. (e.g. MX to MX). Specialist schemes like DXO, FSO, IO, GEO, you will need to resign even when you are moving to another part of the civil service. Public services like stat boards are not on the same civil service schemes.

Source: direct experience of doing a transfer of service
Does it mean that Stat board cannot transfer to ministry and vice versa?

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Old 10-09-2019, 02:59 PM
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This is accurate. The previous poster only saw or heard the glam. Where there really isn't any. At least not until yous reach a rather high rank. Even scholars do such menial task as booking hotels and planning itinerary. And setting up tables for meals.

And the starting pay shared above is accurate for non-scholars.
Serving FSO here. Actually you are very much empowered even from the lowest ranks. Some even come in with several direct reports under them (the fsas).

There’s lot of glam (albeit not all the time). More often than not, extremely gruelling, but I guess you have to find meaning out of it.

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This is accurate. The previous poster only saw or heard the glam. Where there really isn't any. At least not until yous reach a rather high rank. Even scholars do such menial task as booking hotels and planning itinerary. And setting up tables for meals.

And the starting pay shared above is accurate for non-scholars.
I feel this is simplifying FSOs responsibilities too much. I worked for a rather high profile agency which MFA has to work with when there are official visits. A lot of planning and decisions depended on the officer's sense of the political climate, countries' relationship, etc. to design a cohérent visit programme to engineer deeper G2G relations or develop collaborations. This also means working closely with other ministries/agencies with their inputs and recommend a suitable visit programme.

Table setting and meal planning concern protocol where one has to be trained and understand the proper order of proceedings. Agree with the above poster, it is whether you find meaning in doing what you do as an FSO. I personally learned a lot from the FSOs I worked with previously and have respect for them. The granularity of details FSOs can spot or drill down into are not what any other Gov setup can offer.

Try it, if it's not your cup of tea, leave. And you definitely leave with value add in your CV.
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I feel this is simplifying FSOs responsibilities too much. I worked for a rather high profile agency which MFA has to work with when there are official visits. A lot of planning and decisions depended on the officer's sense of the political climate, countries' relationship, etc. to design a cohérent visit programme to engineer deeper G2G relations or develop collaborations. This also means working closely with other ministries/agencies with their inputs and recommend a suitable visit programme.

Table setting and meal planning concern protocol where one has to be trained and understand the proper order of proceedings. Agree with the above poster, it is whether you find meaning in doing what you do as an FSO. I personally learned a lot from the FSOs I worked with previously and have respect for them. The granularity of details FSOs can spot or drill down into are not what any other Gov setup can offer.

Try it, if it's not your cup of tea, leave. And you definitely leave with value add in your CV.
They are the cream of the crop civil service wide so even when they leave, they are amongst the most highly desired people across industries like consulting, even banking (for their connections).
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anyone can advise what is the salary range for an AD in MTI? How's the culture like in MTI?
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anyone can advise what is the salary range for an AD in MTI? How's the culture like in MTI?
MTI entry level designation is AD. MX12
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120k pa as a 30yo male in the public sector

is that considered above average?
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120k pa as a 30yo male in the public sector

is that considered above average?
Of course. Do you even need to ask?
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Of course. Do you even need to ask?
He needs you to "confirm" it so uplift his ego :P
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