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you got 4+ yrs of industry experience and 2+ yrs of teaching experience... and you think $4k + per month is high expectation?

[nanolife]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

you got 4+ yrs of industry experience and 2+ yrs of teaching experience... and you think $4k + per month is high expectation?

3 yrs+ industry experience and 2 yrs + teaching experience. $4k+ reasonable?

[nanolife]

Originally Posted by nanolife

3 yrs+ industry experience and 2 yrs + teaching experience. $4k+ reasonable?

to add on will get a local master degree soon also.

Originally Posted by nanolife

to add on will get a local master degree soon also.

I am going to hazard a guess. Tell me how close I am when you eventually get offered.

$4620 is what they will offer.

how interesting. 4620 is exactly what im getting now, with 8 years of working experience. The exact same figure.

[nanolife]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am going to hazard a guess. Tell me how close I am when you eventually get offered.

$4620 is what they will offer.

my expected salary i indicate is lower than what u specify here.

if i ask for $650 more from my last drawn pay, indicated "negotiable", is it too much? because the hr will sure cut your expected salary one rite?

[k3vin]

Hmm... not too sure if lecturing will give you anything resembling a pay raise.

Friends of mine who lectured after attaining their ma/msc all had to take a pay cut from their pte sector pay.

The lecture because they wanted to, staying in the pte sector is definitely more lucrative for them. Not sure about you.

How about giving a percentage of the $650 increase? How many percent increase would it be?

1 - yes.

2 - i think it's reasonable, but it's what THEY think that matters.

3 - i believe hr has a fixed pay in mind, calculated by some formula / guideline, so it's easy to justify should some government auditor come questioning. from what i hear, they will TRY to MATCH your last drawn pay, but if it's too high, tough. they usually don't entertain negotiations, or they'll just blah blah you away.

4 - got chance.

5 - refer to 3. they will TRY to MATCH your last drawn.

6 - maybe 5k, assuming they value your "2 years++ of teaching experience at other tertiary institution". why didn't you continue at this other tertiary institution? how much are they paying you? or is it an hourly rate? what's the rate?

Originally Posted by nanolife

thank you very much for you reply. appreciate if you can assist further on my questions if you dun mind. thanks in advance.

1) may i know what is the range of salary you get that time? got more than $4k?

2) for my case, i have been working in industry for over 5 years. with 2 years++ of teaching experience at other tertiary institution. will complete my master degree from local u in may this year. so do u thin if put more $4k++ as expected salary reasonable?

3) because i believe most hr will still cut ur expected salarly right even they offer you the job?

4) do u think they actually consider to offer me at current stage already? do i stand any chance to get the job now?

5) are u currently in poly still? do u think the current job market is good? if asking aboutt 15-20% of increment from last drawn considered reasonable? because i believe the hr will cut so i would like to put higher because after cut still my wanted salary.

6) what kind of range of salary does poly lecturer hold for the similar experience as mine?

[nanolife]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1 - yes.

2 - i think it's reasonable, but it's what THEY think that matters.

3 - i believe hr has a fixed pay in mind, calculated by some formula / guideline, so it's easy to justify should some government auditor come questioning. from what i hear, they will TRY to MATCH your last drawn pay, but if it's too high, tough. they usually don't entertain negotiations, or they'll just blah blah you away.

4 - got chance.

5 - refer to 3. they will TRY to MATCH your last drawn.

6 - maybe 5k, assuming they value your "2 years++ of teaching experience at other tertiary institution". why didn't you continue at this other tertiary institution? how much are they paying you? or is it an hourly rate? what's the rate?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1 - yes.

2 - i think it's reasonable, but it's what THEY think that matters.

3 - i believe hr has a fixed pay in mind, calculated by some formula / guideline, so it's easy to justify should some government auditor come questioning. from what i hear, they will TRY to MATCH your last drawn pay, but if it's too high, tough. they usually don't entertain negotiations, or they'll just blah blah you away.

4 - got chance.

5 - refer to 3. they will TRY to MATCH your last drawn.

6 - maybe 5k, assuming they value your "2 years++ of teaching experience at other tertiary institution". why didn't you continue at this other tertiary institution? how much are they paying you? or is it an hourly rate? what's the rate?

thank you very much for your reply.

2. does getting a master degree will help in getting extra pay? if so how much normally they will give?

3. like that meaning i am in dangerous? because i think maybe i indicated too much higher than my last drawn.

you said they dun entertain negotiation, so if my expected salary higher than what they offer, they will totally not offer me even the lower pay they have in mind at all even i indicate "negotiable". they will not even talk to me for the lower pay they can offer at all, and will just turn me off even they got the interest to take me?

because I actually indicate $650 more from my last drawn which I put higher because my previous job hr will cut $200-300 from my expected salary when they offer me the job. so after that it will be the pay i really want.

I cannot revert my expected salary given already now right? it will make me in very embarrassed situation also.

5. so normally they take in lecturer, they will at most give the exact same amount as what your last drawn pay or pay cut you from last drawn and not possible for them to give any extra from last drawn?

6. I am looking to join better career prospective in new institution. personal choice. they are paying monthly salary. but I think I am underpaid comparing to my peers although I am not sure exactly how much they earn.
5k for similar experience like me? so it means i underpaid? because my last drawn not even hit $4k, and my indicated expected salary also slightly over $4k only and very far away from $5k at all

[k3vin]

i think if its slightly over 4k with local ntu/nus/smu masters, they probably wont take issue with it, reasonable.