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Old 17-12-2012, 09:07 PM
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anyone knows how much does a fresh grad 2nd upper guy earn in ura?

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Old 17-12-2012, 10:33 PM
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someone said 5 yrs exp and 3.4K,
and u all saying he should be happy?

No offense to the posters, we are anonymous. but that sounds really low, especially because i thought govt pay pretty high compared to private sector for degree holders in early career and who are not in the upper leagues, but just "regular folk" who comprise the drones in MNCs large and small, and SMCs.

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Old 17-12-2012, 10:42 PM
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reading thru the posts, do you guys think joining army is a competitive option paywise?
for degree holders that is.

looks like starting pay already can get 4K.
might never have a reasonable chance of 5 digits maybe, but how many folks actually make it to 5 digit in private sector. In army, if you eventually "give up" you can just go through the motion. In pvt sector, if you "give up", you still have to show enthusiasm and curry favour here and there just to survive and hold onto you paycheck. also, join army free you of the fantasy of earning big bucks which could take a toll on your psychology..,.especially as you grow older and older and if unfortunately you aren't moving as fast up as you wished. besides, if wanting to stay in pvt sector for the sake of flexible scalability of pay...probably should aim for commission type jobs only.

opinions?

me considering military career le.

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Old 17-12-2012, 10:53 PM
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reading thru the posts, do you guys think joining army is a competitive option paywise?


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me considering military career le.
Keep in mind as a military man, if there is war, your life is on the line. You may argue that your life is on the line anyway as you are an NSMan but more is expected of career soldiers.
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someone said 5 yrs exp and 3.4K,
and u all saying he should be happy?

No offense to the posters, we are anonymous. but that sounds really low, especially because i thought govt pay pretty high compared to private sector for degree holders in early career and who are not in the upper leagues, but just "regular folk" who comprise the drones in MNCs large and small, and SMCs.
agreed that 3.4k for 5 years exp is pretty low.
he should be placed in MX12.
based on my estimate, in the civil service:
pass degree, management exec - 2800
2 years NS - 360
5 years non relevant exp - 800

that would total up to about 3960.
then again, his agency is a stat board, which has their own HR policies.
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Old 18-12-2012, 12:52 AM
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Interested to work as Senior Prison Officer as ASP1. Not sure how is the salary like after 5 yrs. It was mentioned the starting salary is 3610 to 4370.

Anyone knows how is the salary like after 5 yrs and beyond?

I completed NS. Not a scholar with first class.
Please consider carefully if you want to join as a uniformed personnel.

You need to be fit to pass IPPT for promotion.
Yes Sir Yes Sir 3 bags full (Rank, everything about them)
Senior Prison Officer need to be a housing unit OC for the first 2 years minimum. Virtually you are a prisoner yourself. After that, you will be posted as a staff officer for minimum 2 years. Throughout, you will need not perform cyclic shift unlike the JOs but have to work on alternate Sats.
Pay is high when you first join. Every year increment is minimum and you will see your pay rise slowly until you get your next promotion.
Promotion is dependent on getting the right things done for your customer (your boss).
For the first 2 years, stay out of trouble. Once marked, it is difficult to flip. (Your next superior have to write a good report to justify your improvement and not many people are willing to do that)
Competitive environment. Everyone wants to be promoted.
Young 55 years old retirement age. Can be reemployed but that is dependent on performance.

Good stable job though.

My 2 cents.
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Old 18-12-2012, 11:17 PM
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Please consider carefully if you want to join as a uniformed personnel.

You need to be fit to pass IPPT for promotion.
Yes Sir Yes Sir 3 bags full (Rank, everything about them)
Senior Prison Officer need to be a housing unit OC for the first 2 years minimum. Virtually you are a prisoner yourself. After that, you will be posted as a staff officer for minimum 2 years. Throughout, you will need not perform cyclic shift unlike the JOs but have to work on alternate Sats.
Pay is high when you first join. Every year increment is minimum and you will see your pay rise slowly until you get your next promotion.
Promotion is dependent on getting the right things done for your customer (your boss).
For the first 2 years, stay out of trouble. Once marked, it is difficult to flip. (Your next superior have to write a good report to justify your improvement and not many people are willing to do that)
Competitive environment. Everyone wants to be promoted.
Young 55 years old retirement age. Can be reemployed but that is dependent on performance.

Good stable job though.

My 2 cents.
Hi can i ask is the retirement age of 55yo the same for all uniform group? eg. SPF/ICA

After the retirement age of 55yo do most ex-officer get to be redeployed somewhere with a gov job?
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What is a typical salary in Ministry of Law, anyone know?
For degree holder position.
With every year of outside non-related experience...how much extra?
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Hi,

Wondering if anyone can answer my enquiry please.

If I were to enter the civil sector in January, will I be eligible for AI in April or no, considering that I am on probation.

Thanks!
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Old 21-12-2012, 06:30 PM
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What is a typical salary in Ministry of Law, anyone know?
For degree holder position.
With every year of outside non-related experience...how much extra?
were you at the interview? haha.
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