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Old 18-02-2013, 12:52 AM
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This also applied to the private sector, especially MNC.
Not everyone can get the same increment.
i have seen that happened in MNCs

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i have not seen that happened in MNCs
i have not seen that happened in MNCs. I got a shock when I heard such a thing exist in CS for the first time



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Hey, sorry to sidetrack, but I need advice regarding employment at the Civil Service.

I am a final year student from SIM-UoL taking Bsc Economics. Secured 2nd Upper Honors, but expect to graduate with 1st Class (not trying to troll or boast, but I really studied hard and love the subject).

I am interested to work in finance, economics, trade and business-related ministries and statutory boards: EDB, MAS, Spring Singapore, IE Singapore, Ministry of Finance/Foreign Affairs/Defence.

Three Questions:

1. Do they hire SIM students (your existing colleagues) for Research, Policy, Planning or Finance-related roles?

2. Are there be certain departments that are "off limits" (be it official or unofficial) to private degree graduates?

3. Is it possible to become a scholar after joining the civil service?


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Hey, sorry to sidetrack, but I need advice regarding employment at the Civil Service.

I am a final year student from SIM-UoL taking Bsc Economics. Secured 2nd Upper Honors, but expect to graduate with 1st Class (not trying to troll or boast, but I really studied hard and love the subject).

I am interested to work in finance, economics, trade and business-related ministries and statutory boards: EDB, MAS, Spring Singapore, IE Singapore, Ministry of Finance/Foreign Affairs/Defence.

Three Questions:

1. Do they hire SIM students (your existing colleagues) for Research, Policy, Planning or Finance-related roles?

2. Are there be certain departments that are "off limits" (be it official or unofficial) to private degree graduates?

3. Is it possible to become a scholar after joining the civil service?
1. No

2. Yes

3. Yes, but definitely not with SIM degree. Mid careers AOs are usually for people who futher their studies in top global universities.

In short if your goal is to be some high flier in CS, I would say forget it. With just a SIM cert, you will be lucky to even reach DD by 52 years old.
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Hey, sorry to sidetrack, but I need advice regarding employment at the Civil Service.

I am a final year student from SIM-UoL taking Bsc Economics. Secured 2nd Upper Honors, but expect to graduate with 1st Class (not trying to troll or boast, but I really studied hard and love the subject).

I am interested to work in finance, economics, trade and business-related ministries and statutory boards: EDB, MAS, Spring Singapore, IE Singapore, Ministry of Finance/Foreign Affairs/Defence.

Three Questions:

1. Do they hire SIM students (your existing colleagues) for Research, Policy, Planning or Finance-related roles?

2. Are there be certain departments that are "off limits" (be it official or unofficial) to private degree graduates?

3. Is it possible to become a scholar after joining the civil service?
The areas that you're interested at is highly competitive. But if you were legal, accounting, engineering or IT trained, you may stand a chance in certain professional schemes (even higher chance with 2-3 years exp).
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i have not seen that happened in MNCs. I got a shock when I heard such a thing exist in CS for the first time
u are either not working yet or haven't worked in MNC b4.
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The areas that you're interested at is highly competitive. But if you were legal, accounting, engineering or IT trained, you may stand a chance in certain professional schemes (even higher chance with 2-3 years exp).
does degree with UniSim helps to get in? for div 1 officers?
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u are either not working yet or haven't worked in MNC b4.
getting lowest grade in one's appraisal would mean no bonus in CS. I think that might be the diff btw CS and pte
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Hi forumers,

I have been digging around for salary information for civil service but have often been given diplomatic answers like "unable to give a range as all interviewees are different".

I am currently 34yrs old male with Bachelors degree in Business Admin from Uni Canberra, Australia and a Masters of Intl Business from Monash University, Australia. I have 5 years as a civil servant and 6 years of experience in FMCG with reputable companies................


Wow! great to see so many different views.... as a former civil servant I also understand CEP. CEP is really dependent on bosses and may differ year to year...anyway the reason why I am considering MTI is becoz I feel that I would have an advantage as I intend to do my Phd at NTU(RSIS) ...probably will do research in political economics. Being in MTI would help me in my thesis and data collection.

or continue in the private sector and give up on the Phd... what you guys think?

BTW any chance of getting a scholarship from MTI or any government dept ( draw normal salary plus study fulltime) with bond of course.. my family not too well to do. Advice needed here.
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does degree with UniSim helps to get in? for div 1 officers?
I think selective degrees. For example, MOE is looking for English degree holders from SIM (where the greatest shortage of teachers is).
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