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Old 09-06-2013, 02:04 PM
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Hi all, I have a dilemma here right now. Basically, I am a degree holder (studied in Australia) but being paid diploma salary and my grade is Div II (TSO G6). I am currently in a stat board. Prior to this job, I have only about 6 months work experience (fresh grad).

My 1 year contract is coming up and I have heard all first years are automatically graded a C by default for performance no matter how outstanding... I am assuming my boss would renew my contract/offer me permanent position very soon and I want to be well-informed when that day comes.

How can I be promoted to DIV 1? What's the pay increment like for me? I am also considering just not renewing my contract and seeking another job that pays me to the rate of a degree holder. Please advise!

Thanks!
Your case is quite special. Typically, the situation is reverse. Joined as Dip Div II, then go either part-time or overseas studies. Upon graduation, bosses like them (i.e. good performance, potential etc) and place them on Div I. Two types of "upgrades" if successful: (1) up to Div I in Div I scheme; (2) up to Div I in Div 2 scheme e.g. TS G4. Among the two, the former offers much better prospect. One thing for sure, the entire process would take months (if not years).

Generally, if you can find another new Div I job, it would be much faster and easier. IMO, it's better to find a new job if u can.

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Your case is quite special. Typically, the situation is reverse. Joined as Dip Div II, then go either part-time or overseas studies. Upon graduation, bosses like them (i.e. good performance, potential etc) and place them on Div I. Two types of "upgrades" if successful: (1) up to Div I in Div I scheme; (2) up to Div I in Div 2 scheme e.g. TS G4. Among the two, the former offers much better prospect. One thing for sure, the entire process would take months (if not years).

Generally, if you can find another new Div I job, it would be much faster and easier. IMO, it's better to find a new job if u can.
Agreed, emplacement to div 1 is always gonna be tough. one of my colleague took a modest period of 15 months to get her confirmation to div 1. Even so, she's still gonna be ranked behind those started from div 1.

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Agreed, emplacement to div 1 is always gonna be tough. one of my colleague took a modest period of 15 months to get her confirmation to div 1. Even so, she's still gonna be ranked behind those started from div 1.
15-mth is considered quite fast liao. But I beg to differ from ranked from behind. Once you're placed on that scheme, you'll be treated equally. Based on my observation, many diploma upgraders lack good comm skills in general, they might be slightly "disadvantaged" on that.



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15-mth is considered quite fast liao. But I beg to differ from ranked from behind. Once you're placed on that scheme, you'll be treated equally. Based on my observation, many diploma upgraders lack good comm skills in general, they might be slightly "disadvantaged" on that.
u mean degree holder generally have better comm skill then dip holder?
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u mean degree holder generally have better comm skill then dip holder?
It's based on my personal observations. Even among local grads, SMU grads are generally better (in term of comm skills and articulation). You can look at their powerpoint presentation. I suspect they might even have an internal competition of who can come up with best powerpoint slides. Technical skills/substance, on the other hand, is another matter.
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hi,

what are the suitable career path in the civil service for NTU EEE specialized in power concentration, assuming 1st class/2nd upper honours?

how is the starting pay and progression like?

and what do u guys feel about EMA Energy Market Authority?

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hi,

what are the suitable career path in the civil service for NTU EEE specialized in power concentration, assuming 1st class/2nd upper honours?

how is the starting pay and progression like?

and what do u guys feel about EMA Energy Market Authority?

ty
It depends whether you're going for specialist or generalist in government sector. If it's latter, discipline doesn't really matter. DSTA/DSO should be a good place for power specialist. Not sure if EMA or any agencies (outside defence sector) taking in specialist in power but can try writing in. Pay-wise, you can try asking on threads e.g. DXO, DSTA etc depending on which agencies that you're targeting.
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If you've yet to graduate, join their internship programme. Best to find out more directly from insiders.

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It depends whether you're going for specialist or generalist in government sector. If it's latter, discipline doesn't really matter. DSTA/DSO should be a good place for power specialist. Not sure if EMA or any agencies (outside defence sector) taking in specialist in power but can try writing in. Pay-wise, you can try asking on threads e.g. DXO, DSTA etc depending on which agencies that you're targeting.
Thanks for replying. ermmm, seems like I dont have many choices.. i have bad impression of DSTA, salary so so yet stress lvl so high.

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If you've yet to graduate, join their internship programme. Best to find out more directly from insiders.

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Thanks, currently doing internship in sembcorp. I will try to apply EMA internship next year.

just a general Q, Civil sector vs private sector. which is better?

Feel very lost, i still have 2 years to decide on my career path even though I'm on track for 1st class honour in NTU EEE. Engineering field offer low starting salary and most ppl struck at 5k. most of my frens recommend me to sign on if I manage to get a 1st class/2nd upper, since the starting salary is alr 5.1k, kind of attractive with all the backpay of roughly $40k.

Can give me some words of advice? Thank you. really appreciate ur help and time. cheers
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Thanks for replying. ermmm, seems like I dont have many choices.. i have bad impression of DSTA, salary so so yet stress lvl so high.



Thanks, currently doing internship in sembcorp. I will try to apply EMA internship next year.

just a general Q, Civil sector vs private sector. which is better?

Feel very lost, i still have 2 years to decide on my career path even though I'm on track for 1st class honour in NTU EEE. Engineering field offer low starting salary and most ppl struck at 5k. most of my frens recommend me to sign on if I manage to get a 1st class/2nd upper, since the starting salary is alr 5.1k, kind of attractive with all the backpay of roughly $40k.

Can give me some words of advice? Thank you. really appreciate ur help and time. cheers
If you expect specific answer, you'll have to ask specific questions and give clearer context/background. You don't expect people to second guess your mind.
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