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Old 12-09-2021, 08:48 AM
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What do you think about those DSTA, DSO, GovTech engineers get $5k starting salary for fresh grad?

Hopping can also mean joining another ministry or statboard.
These agencies require tech/engineering background to attain specialist pay

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What do you think about those DSTA, DSO, GovTech engineers get $5k starting salary for fresh grad?

Hopping can also mean joining another ministry or statboard.
those are specialised scheme. thats why the first qn is what is the scheme the OP is on and he replied mx scheme. no point debating about specialised scheme. and btw, these scheme have higher monthly pay but avg annual package of 15 months. the overall package is slightly more than the general mx scheme (i am referring to avg performer, they are ppl getting 18 mths for sure, just like ppl getting 20 mths in mx scheme)

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Old 12-09-2021, 11:31 AM
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The worklife balance was hard to beat, I don't think I can receive better offer in pte sector while only doing 1 to 2 hours worth of work a day. And even if pte sector offers 20% more, would likely have work like mad for it.

I have a senior who switched from SB to KPMG, he was making 8k+ at the SB and KPMG offered him 12k. In the end, he said he regretted because the loss of worklife balance was not worth the extra 3k.
he definitely regret.. kpmg pays 13 month every year, his package would be 156k. in SB under general mx scheme he should be getting around 16 months on avg which gives him about 144k. the increase is only 1k every mth and he had to OT alot more. and drawing 12 KPMG he should be a lvl 3 SM or higher (just 1 lvl below partner), he probably has a secretary but the responsibility is heavy.. whereas a 8 9k PS officer is max a mx10 not even part of the management team most of the time.

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he definitely regret.. kpmg pays 13 month every year, his package would be 156k. in SB under general mx scheme he should be getting around 16 months on avg which gives him about 144k. the increase is only 1k every mth and he had to OT alot more. and drawing 12 KPMG he should be a lvl 3 SM or higher (just 1 lvl below partner), he probably has a secretary but the responsibility is heavy.. whereas a 8 9k PS officer is max a mx10 not even part of the management team most of the time.
Past 2 years CS didn't have mid year and end year component, so it was about 15 months package which total should be about 120k+ per annum. Nonetheless, the jump from 120k to 156k is not worth the increased workload, as you mentioned.
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Past 2 years CS didn't have mid year and end year component, so it was about 15 months package which total should be about 120k+ per annum. Nonetheless, the jump from 120k to 156k is not worth the increased workload, as you mentioned.
Just to add, if he does make partner eventually, then it's a completely different story.
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he definitely regret.. kpmg pays 13 month every year, his package would be 156k. in SB under general mx scheme he should be getting around 16 months on avg which gives him about 144k. the increase is only 1k every mth and he had to OT alot more. and drawing 12 KPMG he should be a lvl 3 SM or higher (just 1 lvl below partner), he probably has a secretary but the responsibility is heavy.. whereas a 8 9k PS officer is max a mx10 not even part of the management team most of the time.

That is why get 120k and be happy or 156k and be sad.


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he definitely regret.. kpmg pays 13 month every year, his package would be 156k. in SB under general mx scheme he should be getting around 16 months on avg which gives him about 144k. the increase is only 1k every mth and he had to OT alot more. and drawing 12 KPMG he should be a lvl 3 SM or higher (just 1 lvl below partner), he probably has a secretary but the responsibility is heavy.. whereas a 8 9k PS officer is max a mx10 not even part of the management team most of the time.
Is associate director at KPMG above lvl 3 SM?
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Is associate director at KPMG above lvl 3 SM?
associate director is SM lvl 2. SM is the corporate title, AD is the functional title (aka on namecard)
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That is why get 120k and be happy or 156k and be sad.
Maybe he is a workaholic who is happy to OT?

Happiness is so subjective that I donít think itís appropriate to include that in a salary discussion. We should stick to the numbers for a more meaningful discussion.
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Just to add, if he does make partner eventually, then it's a completely different story.
yeah, thats why it depends on what he wants.
i am opposite. i was from private MNC (9 years) to GLC (1 yr) to PS (now 3rd year)

currently 36 YO mx10 equivalence (just promoted).. nothing fantastic, drawing 8k flat.. last year package 16.8 months (mid, end year 0 and mac 0)..
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